The FDA is retarded

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  1. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    Cut your leg off a see how much relief you get from a doobie
     
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    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    It would be past a doobie, but high concentrations of oil, try it sometime.
     
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    Bengal B Founding Member

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    Wouldn't work on that severity of pain. Give me the heroin.
     
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    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    You ever tried high concentrations of THC? I've taken fentanyl and I can tell you concentrated THC is better. It doesn't make you sick it gives you an appetite, it won't fucking kill you. We aren't talking about smoking pot. The best pot in the world has around 32 percent THC, I'm taking about 90 percent and up.
     
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    Bengal B Founding Member

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    I'm guessing that you weren't in extreme pain when you took the oil. More of a recreational thing. Right? I have smoke hash oil and marijuana oil and if I had been in agonizing pain I don't think it would have helped. Pot is good for the relief of nausea from chemotherapy and to stimulate appetites but I can tell you that even very high quality pot doesn't do much for a hangover
     
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    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    There are people who actually have cancer that would disagree.
     
  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Well, you are absolutely wrong about that. Perhaps you have never had a close one suffer in terrible pain.

    Of course it is only for kids in exceptional pain, Did you read the article? And doctors are mostly stand-up people in my experience. I will be happy to watch what happens and I hope your child never suffers like a young cousin of mine did.

    You should know better. Cannabis is NOT A PAIN KILLER. Cancer patients take it because it helps alleviate some bad side effects of opiate pain relievers, primarily nausea. It also helps people to be more content when they have to live with pain, but it does not alleviate pain at all.
     
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    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Yes it is. A good friend of mine was on the .50 in a hum v in Iraq that hit an IED. Everyone was killed except him, he is mangled, burned from head to toe, is in excruciating pain every day, and would much rather have high concentrations of THC than opiates. Another friend, has cancer is in pain everyday and also prefers cannabis over opiates. I'm not talking about that garbage you used to smoke on Chimes waiting for Skynard to take the stage in the 70's. I'm talking about shit that is around 45 percent stronger. Yes, weed is a pain killer, and a whole hell of a lot safer.

    Call this out for what it is. I bet you there is someone who works for the company that makes OxyContin that is really fucking close with the FDA, hell that person will probably go work for that company now. this is just another attempt to sell drugs that are addictive. It's all about the money. OxyContin is fucking dangerous, and this is coming from someone who has taken them. its about money, plain and simple. It's not about kids in pain. If you think for one second that this has anything to do with kids in pain I have a bridge here in Pineville for sale. That's the front. The plan like any drug dealer, is to expand the market and get people hooked because the money is in the comeback. If you don't think that only terminal children will be prescribed this you have lost your mind. Adults can't even handle OxyContin, which is heroin made by a corporation instead of being made by a poppy farmer.

    Look we can sit and argue but watch in 4 or 5 years from now how badly this is going to turn out.
     
  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Safer, sure. And I know very well about good weed. I know about hash, heroin, morphine, opium, and a lot psychedelic drugs, too. Cannabis helps you deal with pain, no argument. But it is no substitute for actual pain killers for those in extreme pain. I had a kidney stone and trust me catching a buzz was not answer for it. The pain laughed at 3 doses of morphine and they had to give me dilaudid, the most power opiate there is and it was like magic. The pain disappeared. I recovered and was not addicted. There is no reason for people to suffer when there is medicine available.

    I watched an old friend die of cancer a few years ago and he smoked weed everyday to cope with it all, but he was on a morphine pump for the last 6 months of his life and thank goodness for it. It was all that let him bear the pain. I'm talking about end-of-life conditions here, Hoss. The potential for long-term addiction don't mean shit. You are going to need them for the rest of your short life. Nobody should be forced to live in pain because of the self-righteousness of others.

    I'll take that bet. If there are shenanigans going on then expose them! Meanwhile people are in pain and they don;' give a shit about your cannabis politics. That multi-billion dollar industry has a big hand in this discussion, too. Be honest.

    Yeah man. I think it is about kids in pain. The article stated it plainly. You are just having another conspiracy moment.

    Oxycontin has already been prescribed for years! It is an effective drug when properly handled. Yes, it has been abused like any other addictive drug but that does not mean that it doesn't have a legitimate role in pain management. The is the same wrong argument being made against medical marijuana. The abuse is bad, not the medicine.

    Uhhh, OK. You might be right in 4 or 5 years. Or . . . you may be wrong now and forever.
     
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