The conundrum with the play calling and the confidence in JJ

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  1. MLUTiger

    MLUTiger Secular Humanist

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    It's understood that he's a Junior and had two years in the system (just starting the third), but what most people fail to understand is where he started. It's not the same place that guys like Matt Flynn, Jamarcus Russell or even Ryan Perrilloux started.

    Fans might get tired of hearing it, but it doesn't change the reality. JJ might not ever be the QB we hoped that he would be when he was signed.
     
  2. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    You hope for LSU to be so far behind that we are forced to throw the ball, just to make a point?

    Huh?

    Defenses no longer stack the box when their team is way ahead in the game. They start to defend the pass, realizing you are going to give up on the run.
     
  3. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    We never had high expectations of JJ when he was signed. He was an afterthought since we "had" Perrilloux for the next 2 years.
     
  4. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    We actually didn't sustain drives. They almost all stalled prematurely. We kicked 5 FGs after many of the drives started near midfield or in MSU territory. The average length of drive for those 5 FGs could not have been more than 30 yards in length. And I think that might be a bit forgiving.

    This team hasn't sustained a drive all year long really. That's what is really disconcerting. There is absolutely no continuity with this offense, and the problem starts with the O-line and seeps into the QB play.
     
  5. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    In terms of yardage, no, in terms of clock YES!

    LSU was still in their 2nd drive, 2nd when the 1st quarter ended...

    It was clear to me, Miles is trying to slow things down.

    THough, I think the best thing for JJ is to air it out.
     
  6. TCUTiger

    TCUTiger Founding Member

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    IMO, this offense can become a weapon with this kind of QB when they put together 22 play and 9 minute drives like Texas did to TT. Surely JJ can complete multiple 4 yard passes!!!:geauxtige
     
  7. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    Yeah but you can't expect 5 turnovers every game. Most games you are going to have start from inside your 35. We can't go the distance for a TD from there. We haven't showed we can all year long.
     
  8. mcstraycat

    mcstraycat Founding Member

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    Well said. 3 years in the system and his play is mediocre. The bottom line is, we have two quarterbacks who are less than stellar. Apparently, JJ scares MIles the least so he's going to stick with him come hell or high water.

    I have not forgotten all those pick sixes, but it's a good point made here. Lee stayed with the program. It's obvious JJ has not developed to the degree we had hoped. He shows moments of promise followed by exasperating moments of poor judgement and inaccuracy. Lee deserves an opportunity to at least see if he can move the ball down the field. We don't know if Lee has developed or not because he's hardly seen the field.

    Other than the QB play, we have a team that could beat anybody. I'm convinced of that. But Miles has got to be willing to do something different. I'd really like to see him use a two quarterback system and see who rises to the occasion.
     
  9. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    Your right, but the bright side is that when State pushed our buttons, responded with driving the ball down their arzzz..

    That drive was perfection, just need more of it..
     
  10. Fishhead

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    I don't have time to go look it up, so I hope you'll understand I'm going off of memory here. But you're exaggerating a bit. Against Vandy, we had two long drives, over 10 plays and about 75-80 yds. Against MSU, we didn't have a chance at a long drive. You can't sit here and assume that, just because the drives started at the 50, that we wouldn't have driven down the field from the 20 just as easily. LSU, in the past two games, has moved the sticks. That's something we didn't do last year.
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    It's PAINFULLY slow, but there is improvement each and every game. The Vandy game was terrible QB play. Nobody disputes that. But like has been pointed out, Sat nite, JJ was much improved. The stat line doesn't show it because LSU hardly passed. But the passes were much more on target. Last week, I defended the WRs for what some considered drops. JJ didn't throw a good pass against Vandy IMO. But this time, he made several good throws, and the WRs let HIM down. I'm not gonna get into the first one to TT, because I know we'll just agree to disagree. But Shep let him down at LEAST twice. If he's 12-16 instead of 10-16, we'd all be singing a different tune...because he also would've had a TD and about 150 yds passing in only 16 attempts. But that isn't what happened. Shep dropped a TD and another pass that was on target, and would've allowed him some YAC.
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    I truly believe that, if they need to, this team can succeed with JJ passing the ball more. I also truly believe that UNLESS they need to, they aren't going to. It is what it is. I personally hope they never have to...but it isn't because I'm afraid they can't.
     

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