The Biden presidency

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  1. GiantDuckFan

    GiantDuckFan be excellent to each other Staff Member

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    republicans and democrats are the same

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  2. Kikicaca

    Kikicaca Senior Member

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    Wish you were right but it's more like
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  3. GiantDuckFan

    GiantDuckFan be excellent to each other Staff Member

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    neither party has any solutions, they can't fix anything,.. so all they do is demonize the other side,.. Moe, you've totally bought into that

    dems and repubs are totally ineffective at passing major legislation, we've had a "do nothing congress" since nixon got the boot

    the problem is,.. congress has made their own rules for over 200 years,.. they're very comfortable with their procedures that allow them to do nothing,.. prevents them from passing meaningful legislation,.. and it's affected the presidency, he can't bully laws through congress as was traditional, now the tendency is to simply not enforce existing laws, or to sidestep congress,.. "executive orders" are being abused

    I think both houses should be disbanded, their rules abolished, and both the House and Senate rebuilt from scratch,.. if I was King of America that would be my first decree
     
  4. Kikicaca

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    Agree there should be a better choice. However while I know there are scalliwags in the Republican Party currently they are light years apart from the DEMOCRATS when it comes to following the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Part of Trumps downfall was he wasn't in the game for the money or power and the DEMOCRATS along with some scalliwags had to destroy him. He was following the edicts of the constitution which the DEMOCRATS can't live with. He was about to expose the giant fraud and money grab the DEMOCRATS and the handful of Republicans were doing. He was going to expose the Clinton's and the highly connected pedophiles in and out of the government. Notice you hear nothing more of Jeff Epstien and his pedophile enterprise with the political and social elites and you never will. You will hear no more about Bill and Hilarys illegal activities nor the illegal activities of the Biden's. You are a nice guy but your head is in the sand buddy.

    Had they not cheated and beat Trump in 2020 I truly believe he was going to be assinated.
     
  5. Winston1

    Winston1 Founding Member

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    You forget the Contract with America of the 1994 Republicans GDF. They actually had a significant impact and changed the direction of the country for a few years. Unfortunately they forgot what made them and lost the way.
    I think the campaign finance “reforms” and Citizen United has destroyed the power of the parties to do anything productive because any great fundraisers can gather enough influence to stop things but not enough to do anything positive.
    As corrupt as the old party control of money could be it imposed discipline on the caucuses and allowed leaders to get things done. As much as @Kikicaca and his ilk protest it also prevented polarization of the parties and allowed multiple views and compromise. You don’t get production by one sided laws rammed down the opposition’s throat. We actually need northeastern liberal republicans and southern conservative democrats.
    If I could ignore the constitution I’d change campaign finance laws to pre Citizens United and other so called reforms.
     
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  6. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 Let's have a drink.

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    I disagree. The left is clearly socialist with a mix of totalitarianism.

    The GOP only cares about self enrichment. All talk, but zero action. The left is about action to move us to be more dependent on them. They want class warfare. They need it.
     
  7. GiantDuckFan

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    yep, it was corrupt, but it worked,.. we need to scrap that old age crap, we need shiny new pillars of democracy
    the 1994 republicans impressed you, maybe changed their party,.. but long-term what was their effect? what problems did they solve? illegal immigration is still happening, our country's infrastructure is still crumbling, our schools and medical care still not nearly good enough

    other than passing criminally unfair tax bills,.. what nationally important legislation has congress passed in the US since nixon,.. I can think of two, and both flopped
     
  8. GiantDuckFan

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    the conservatives paint all liberals the color of antifa,.. the left portrays the right as white supremicists,.. 15% of each side are extremists, aka idiot troublemakers, they make a lot of noise, get too much attention from a sensationalism driven news media,.. we'd be better off if all dim/repug extremists spontaneously combusted
     
  9. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 Let's have a drink.

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    80% of the Dem voter base is in fact far more socialist driven than 80% of GOP voters. The gap is wide. If you dont believe me, simply look at the media and the relevant issue of our time. Has everything to do with "equity". They have moved on from "equality". Equity means intervention...

    Prove me wrong.
     
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  10. Winston1

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    Certainly the balancing of the budget and welfare reform had potential to be significant to the future. Had the budget balancing held we could have seen infrastructure investment. The tax reforms were “criminally unfair “ as you claim.
    Well unfortunately 9/11 and it’s aftermath pretty much ruined whatever effect it had. It took focus away from our issues to the war on terror, Afghanistan and Iraq 2. Fiscal discipline went out the door.
    W had a farsighted and far reaching immigration bill that was sabotaged by the extreme right wing Republicans. It was when the impact of the cleansing of the parties ideological houses came to the fore.
     
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