The Biden presidency

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  1. Jmg

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    again, you have not told me what i said that is not true. i asked many times. can you tell me what i said that was not precisely and perfectly correct?

    i cant help you learn if you wont tell me what you disagree with.
     
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    because :
     
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    everything you have said is not true. Everything. You said the rich pay their taxes. It’s well documented some of the richest people and corporations pay no taxes after deductions. I want you to show me your proof they are and that they pay their fair share of taxes. Now, you’ve stated a bunch of crap but have shown zero support for it. I’m only asking for your support since you seem so certain of your position. Up to now all you have are assertions that are not common knowledge.
     
  4. Jmg

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    what percent would you consider fair for a rich person to pay?

    if the top 1 percent of taxpayers paid 40% of all income taxes paid would that be fair?
     
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    More questions are a deflection to skirt my request for support. I conclude you can not provide that support. Can’t tell you how surprised I am about that.
     
  6. Jmg

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    you mean like elon musk, who has paid more taxes this year than anyone else in history? i am not sure who you mean.
     
  7. Jmg

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    we have to define what "fair" means in terms of actual taxes before we can describe what is fair and unfair. you cant just use vague words like "fair". you do that to make your point non-falsifiable. i am trying to get you to make a real rational point not a vague aphorism.

    again, i ask what percent would you consider fair for a rich person to pay?

    again, the rich in the US pay most of the taxes. its one of , if not the most progressive tax system on earth.

    if the top 1 percent of taxpayers paid 40% of all income taxes paid would that be fair? or would it be fair if the top 1% paid all of the taxes for the other 99?

    some might argue that a flat tax rate is fair. everyone paying the same percentage seems to be by definition fair right?
     
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    I wouldn't, I think that hurts the poor far worse than it does the rich guy
     
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    the left uses a talking point that the rich do not pay their "fair share". however, when you ask what that means, they will never answer. this is what happened here. "fair share" is a vague and nebulous talking point, and liberals are unable to put even the slightest idea of numbers forward. they have no argument other than the talking point they heard. they dont know what the fuck they are talking about.

    but the fact is the rich pay the bills. overwhelmingly. the bottom half of the country pays close to nothing.

    some of you are lefty because of character flaws, insecurity, the desire to bring down others to aggrandize yoursellf. others are just not good critical thinkers, bad at seeing through the media's motives, some a combination of both. some of you just dont know what the fuck you are talking about and repeat what you heard and were tricked by.

    "In 2019, the bottom 50 percent of taxpayers (taxpayers with AGI below $44,269) earned 11.5 percent of total AGI and paid 3.1 percent ($48.4 billion) of all federal individual income taxes".

    you on the left need to to try harder, mentally. dont let the class conflict talking points fool you.

    The top 1 percent paid a greater share of individual income taxes (38.8 percent) than the bottom 90 percent combined (29.2 percent).

    thats a VERY progressive tax system. the rich pay their share. they pay far more than their share.

    repeat, if you repeat that the rich are not paying their share, you have been fooled by democratic talking points, and you dunno dick about fuck. thats why every single time someone says this, you can question them and they know nothing. nothing. not a fucking thing.
     

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