Tax Question

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  1. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    please cite an instance where the GOP has compromised with the Democrats since Obama has been in office. If they have then I am dead wrong, and that is highly possible because I often am, but I can't remember one time that they have.
     
  2. mobius481

    mobius481 Registered Member

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    I misread your quote when it said since obama has taken office. I thought you meant in general. Nevertheless, how can a party who has no power, compromise on anything. Reid and Pelosi shoved everything down their throats in closed door sessions and ignored their proposals.

    Do you really feel the republicans are responsible for partisanship in the last two years? That's a helluva stretch.
     
  3. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Not completely no.
     
  4. Rex_B

    Rex_B Geaux Time

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    Yes those 40%. Pay up.

    Fair share my ass. Just because X makes 10M doesn't mean X should pay 3M. It's just absurd.

    And I couldn't care less about the idle rich. They pay 100x more in dollars than most. Top 1% pays 70% of the taxes. Is that enough fair share for yah?

    The problem is Govt. SPENDING. The US wouldn't need half the tax income if they didn't SPEND us to death. It's about time they take THEIR hands off OUR money.
     
  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Nonsense. Obama would have provided a bigger stimulus but he made concessions to republicans. Obama made over 40 major concessions on the health care plan including scrapping single-pay and was repaid by the republicans giving him not one vote. Obama caved on the tax cut extensions to get the extended unemployment benefits. He should have forced the republicans to fight to deny the benefits and made them take the political hit.

    Obama's problem is that he compromised too much when he had control of the house and senate without getting concessions in return. He thought that if he met the GOP halfway they would meet him. But he has learned the hard way that the GOP is not interested in compromise and cannot be trusted. The only reason they conceded this two-year delay is that they think they will be in power in 2 years and will just break the pledge and override the democrats.

    Hillary would never have let the GOP railroad her like Obama did.
     
  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Go back to fourth-grade math and learn about percentages and then maybe you can make enough sense to argue with. :insane:
     
  7. Rex_B

    Rex_B Geaux Time

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    Apparently you missed the part where the top tier pays the majority. I guess fair in your book is the opposite of my book.

    At the end of the day I want to know when THEY(govt) stop taking OUR(people) money.
     
  8. mobius481

    mobius481 Registered Member

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    I don't know if I should debunk this whole post or just laugh at it. This stuff happened in the last 24 months and you're already rewriting history.

    Obama NEVER negotiated with the GOP. He negotiated with the blue dog democrats who held up the filibuster proof majority he held in the senate. He never even got into the republican's wishes because all he had to do was negotiate with the non loony liberals in his own party. Thank god for them anyway. Single payer doesn't exist because of blue dog democrats. The stimulus was smaller because of blue dog democrats. Had all democrats been good with Obama's agenda, he would have jammed it down the republicans throat. Just like he did when he finally bribed all of the senators to vote for his healthcare bill.

    I'll ask you what I asked Lasalle earlier. Do you really believe what you just posted?
     
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  9. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    He made those 40 concessions to the conservatives in his own party. None of the major GOP elements were incorporated into the bill. No expansion of HSA's, no tort reform, lots of new tax requirements for small business (completely unrelated to healthcare), no firm language on abortion subsidies, and I can go on. What Obama did was not compromise. He made a crap bill into a watered down crap bill to get the conservative arm of his own party to vote for it.
     
  10. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Better start laughing because you've done nothing to debunk it.

    :lol: Talk about rewriting history . . . The health bill was debated for over a year in both houses of Congress and in several committees. Republicans were present and concessions were made . . . it's called negotiation.

    Of course. Prove me wrong if you can.
     

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