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I heard Coach Miles say I don't know where the clock it call came from!!

He was yelling at JJ and giving a clock it hand motion over and over!

explain that to me and I will chill a little!

He said I thought my QB could handle it but I guess I was wrong!

explain that one also!


I am waiting


and Yes I am a Tiger Fan!!:LSU231:

 

Well stated. I think I agree with this post the most.

I would add that many signs are pointing to deterioration right now, and that is why so many are upset. For example, QB development has been very poor over the last 2-3 years, along with a lack of offensive identity/smoothness, and poor line play on both sides of the ball. We essentially wasted a year with co-defensive coord. experiment debacle last year, and now another with an OC who clearly can not cut it in the SEC. We also continue to hear about current recruiting commitments reportedly wavering, and other highly touted ones suddenly giving us the cold shoulder (presumably). Despite these signs, going into Ole Miss, the optimist in me focused on that we were still rated #8 in the BCS (highest rated 2 loss team) with losses to the #1 and #2 rated teams, both games of which we had a shot to win. But this latest loss really shows our slide highlighting our inefficient offense, and poor in-game coaching decisions. The realist in me says we were lackluster to say the least in our wins against MSU (while lesser teams are handling them quite well), La Tech, and ULL, teams whose talent aren't even close to LSUs level. For all of these reasons, 7-3 with a #15 ranking just doesn't feel the same as an Arnsparger 8-3 team, or a Saban 9-2 team. It is all relative to some degree, but these last few years do not give the feel of a team "coming on" but rather one "going down", and that is not a good feeling for most of us. Its not bashing, or not supporting in good or bad times, its just simply recognition and wanting the ship to go in the right direction once again.

 

Respectful? Patience? "Just being Honest" :shock:

No. As soon as Les Miles was hired, people like yourself started picking at him mercilessly about about the way he wore his damned hat & the way he talked and myriad other things. You have literally picked apart a National Championship Football coach at LSU, which is a rarity, who averages 10 Wis & 2.8 Losses per season, into a skelaton. You have picked his bones clean.


EX. Game #2 under Les Miles, people where calling him names because he committed the sin of asking where his wife was located in the stadium. He later said he didn't or couldn't remember doing so. This became "Wifegate" that lasted into the 2006 season.

 

As a season ticket holder that sat through the end of the Hallman era and never left a game before the final whistle during the entire Dinardo debacle I think I can say that I have and still do support my team. That being said it isn't lack of support when you point out the obvious deficiencies in the team or the coaching staff. Don't get shock and dismay confused with lack of support. I'll be back in the stands Saturday pulling for the Tigers when we face Arkansas. I'll also call it like I see it when the game is over. It is possible to support the team while being bluntly honest.:miles::thumb:

 

People like me? Right back at you. NO. I have been yelling that Miles is a good and decent guy and a good coach to everyone who would listen. However, I admit to questioning his calls a bit as a fan. Since I am not a coach and they worked out, I let them go. But, again, admittedly, they simmer under the surface, as I wonder when the, shall we just say "strange" calls will cost us. Now I know. So, stop being presumptuous. As a fan and observer of the game and of this program, I feel it sliding. If it heads due NORTH again, I'll gladly take my punches. :thumb:

 

I was an LSU fan since 62 so.....

I will always be an LSU fan.

Miles never was that good at clock management or game day management.

Our talent helped him out in most of his close calls.

My Uncle lives in Stillwater, he is an LSU fan ( born in LA ) and also a sooners fan. he made note when we hired Miles that most everyone in stillwater was happy to see him go.

have the OSU cowboys suffered since he left?

take that for what its worth. Miles is a good coach, with great recruiting ability, lots of integrity and a great motivator. But he isnt top tier, he is handily and often outcoached on game day by Houston Nutt.

LSU just deserves the best is all, period.

I love Miles as a person and for the good he has done @ LSU but I think the long term harm he does the program will eventually catch up with us.

it is time for him to go while he can still salvage another good coaching job at some other school, save some face and not embaress LSU in the process.

I wish I could candy coat it, it is what it is. I am no football guru but when the whole sporting world sees it except a few fans grazing on Miles planted purple and gold grass, it's pretty much a given.

his other option is learn to coach better and throw Crowton under the bus, while this is what will more than likely happen, it will only deter the inevitable. IMHO.

 

Never doubted your status as a big Tigers fan, Cliff. And I'm not picking on you at all here, but you mentioned something that I've been puzzling over, and I think I finally figured this out:

We all know Les doesn't always (or even often) say what he means, and frequently speaks in fragmented sentences. With that in mind, I THINK what he was trying to say was that he put the responsibility on Jefferson, and it was a mistake ON HIS PART to put that much pressure on JJ. I THINK he was trying, in his usual bumbling way, to say that it was HIS fault for putting JJ in that position.

I also wonder if that famous video clip isn't taken out of sequence, or out of context. When the last catch was made, THREE seconds were still on the clock...but it didn't stop. I also thought that he was trying to tell the ref that the receiver was down...I didn't think he was making the spike motion. And remember that JJ said it was the signal caller that ordered the spike - not CLM.

I dunno. It sucked all the way around, but I'll bet all of you that in his next news conference (Lunch with Les, perhaps?) he'll take all the blame for everything that happened - and didn't happen - in the last couple of minutes.

We SHOULD have won that game. The coaches gave it away. CLM is the head coach and will man up and take the blame for the loss. Bet on it. And I also think he will apologize to the team AND the fans for letting us all down.

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