Stop Coddling the Super-Rich

Discussion in 'Free Speech Alley' started by Cajun Sensation, Aug 15, 2011.

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  1. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    This is exactly why the US military, after Vietnam, transformed the National Guard. They never got called up for Vietnam even as class after class of 18-year-old draftees were shipped off. All the old weekend warrior/summer soldier Guard did was roll out for emergency relief duty, get paid for hanging out at an armory, and shoot the occasional college student.

    The military was upset that they were sent off to war without the support and commitment of the American people. They did not like the political rules that tied their hands and stretched it out. So they changed the role of the Guard, gave them better tools, trained them up far better and most importantly . . . integrated them with active units. It essentially meant that whenever the US went to war the Guard would be called up on day one and would participate.

    In this fashion, the military insured that any future war would involve troops from every state and they would leave their jobs in every community. The whole country would be impacted from the start. It was thought that this would force the public to either support a just and pragmatic war or balk at an unpopular and futile war and be a brake on rash politicians.

    But most of all it would invest the entire nation's interests in making the war short. By this, they freed themselves to develop a new American Way of War that were quick and extremely violent emphasizing technology and overwhelming force. The Gulf War proved this to be effective at defeating an enemy.

    It's just not effective for occupying a hostile country. We should have learned that lesson in Vietnam.
     
    red55, Aug 16, 2011
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  2. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    And where do those additional wages come from? Business owners. Typical liberal policies. How abvout telling the min wage worker to pick himself up by his bootstraps and improving his lot in life?
     
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  3. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    what a lovely benefit, giving a poor person the chance to contribute to wasteful govt spending. poor people need to support things like red's life saving wind farm initiatives.

    you sound like a gangster giving a store owner an opportunity to purchase "protection". how nice.
     
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  4. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Customers, obviously. And when customers are spending business make money, if they can keep any staff.
     
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  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    When you mock and jeer, we know that you have lost another argument.

    Cha-ching!
     
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  6. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    The customers will bear the increased cost that businesses will be forced to bear.
     
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  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    That's commerce, baby. Its a circle and the more it moves, it creates upward mobility for all concerned not just the friggin' holy business owners, but employees, stockholders, and customers, too.
     
    red55, Aug 16, 2011
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  8. MLUTiger

    MLUTiger Secular Humanist

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    See, it's funny you just assume that the rich work hard and the poor just sit around waiting for their checks, because in my experience (and I have plenty of it) it's the other way around. The majority of the ultra-rich did nothing to earn it outside of being born to the right parents. Those at the lower end of the poverty scale aren't the ones that concerns me the most. It's the rapidly disappearing middle class that form the backbone of this country that's slowly disappearing into the lower class through no fault of their own.

    Meanwhile the rich get richer and the poor people keep voting for policies that keep them that way...
     
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  9. Swerved

    Swerved It appears my hypocrisy knows no bounds.

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    But they do. You know that 50 jobs the company I work for is bringing to the area averaging 52k a year? I can assure you that none of the people that invested money to make that happen are poor folks. And it damn sure wasn't the government either. The 8.1 million it took to get the place open (which will be more like 10 million before we're actually done) is nothing compared to the money they invested in R&D over the last 10 years to bring the process we use to market. After the fact however, they will indeed recover some of their money in the form of tax credits that which give them a percentage of their investment back over a period of 10 years (some of those old fellas may not even live that long from now). Whoopty doo.. big entitlements.

    I guess I'm just an anomaly though. No other people ever get employment as a result of the rich investing their money...ever.

    Don't get me wrong, I understand your argument but to sit there and act like no money from the rich ever creates jobs is just incorrect.
     
    Swerved, Aug 16, 2011
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  10. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    You can't go clouding lasalles mind with logic. It is far too painful for him.
     
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