News Stephan Hawking Declares There is No God

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  1. flabengal

    flabengal Founding Member

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    Check out YouTube. I am sure you can find video of an exorcism there...
     
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    One cannot have thin skin on an internet message board.
     
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    According to the big bang theory all the matter in the cosmos and all of space itself existed in a form smaller than a subatomic particle. Where did this subatomic particle come from? Does science have an evidence based answer for this question?

    Believers in God believe God always was. Of course that is based on faith.
     
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    I think they refer to that as infinite regression. It's logically absurd which is where Hawking gets it wrong. He says something like the law of gravity causes the universe to come into existence from nothing. But the law of gravity is something, not nothing.

    For some reason they have difficulty with the idea of nothing. I've never been able to understand why.
     
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    Of course it does. Look up gravitational singularity. I can't imagine why people cannot accept that there could have been "nothingness" before the singularity, neither time nor mass. And more knowledge is being uncovered every year. Science will never reach the point where everything is known. It continually evolves and improves.

    And faith rarely evolves. It is why religions become relics over time, stuck like epoxy to the limited intellect and knowledge available to ancient, illiterate people.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Hawkings logic is relentless and advanced. Where is the logical failure? Hard for you to understand is NOT a logical fallacy.

    Your grasp of Hawkings concepts are poor.
     
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    Are you saying you can't imagine why people can't accept that something may have come from nothing?
     
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    I spoke very clearly. There exists evidence for a singularity, there is no evidence of anything before that and likely there can never be. The singularity did not have to "come from somewhere". There could have been "nothing" or there could have been "something" before than. We have no way of knowing in the absence of evidence.
     
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    Whose isn't?
     
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    Our entire life is based on matter.

    To say, "their could have been nothing" does not jive with the current scientific model.
     
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