News Stephan Hawking Declares There is No God

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  1. MLUTiger

    MLUTiger Secular Humanist

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    The person that doesn't believe in god was made by god according to you.
     
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  2. mancha

    mancha Alabama morghulis

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    What is your philosophical argument?

    If a God is out there then he obviously created you. It isn't necessary to have that knowledge. In fact, it is impossible. A priori knowledge of creation is impossible. All you have is what you think it is all about regardless if you are right or wrong.
     
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  3. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Logical fallacy.

    False Cause -- presuming that a real or perceived relationship between things means that one is the cause of the other.​

    If God is out there, then multiple Gods could be out there. Another God may have created you. Or perhaps God isn't into creation at all and allows nature to proceed.
     
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  4. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    If God is out there I'd like to ask him to send LSU a quarterback
     
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  5. mancha

    mancha Alabama morghulis

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    I think you meant to reply to me? Anyway. The point is not if God is out there. It could be any creator(s) or it could be nothing. It doesn't matter and you don't have to believe in it to exist and it doesn't have to have you believe in it for you to exist either.

    The question posed, "Why did God make Hawking an atheist?" does nothing to challenge anyone. If you don't believe in God, it is an invalid question. If you believe in God, it is a simply that he created you and it is up to you to believe in him. The Devil is there to lead you astray and that was my simple answer.

    I have already stated my beliefs previously but it is ok to be the Devil's advocate.
     
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  6. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    so the devil is real?
     
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  7. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    The Devil made me do it the first time. Second time I done it on my own.
     
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  8. mancha

    mancha Alabama morghulis

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    I can't answer that for you. You'll have to listen to Stairway to Heaven backward for the answer.
     
    mancha, Oct 21, 2014
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    That was not my objection. The notion that if God exists he must have created us is illogical. There is neither correlation nor causation.

    There are no invalid questions.
     
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  10. mancha

    mancha Alabama morghulis

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    You are completely off the question. Go back and answer it in your own way.
     
    mancha, Oct 21, 2014
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