stealing music, and the future of copyright

i think that is a good point. for some reason, red didnt address it in his latest post.

 

Yes it is...now. The difference between the music industry and the video game industry is the video game industry caught it before it got huge. The music industry let it go without doing ANYTHING until Metallica said something about Napster.

All of a sudden when broadband starts to take over and it doesn't take an hour to download a song any more they expect people to stop doing something that they had been allowed to do for so long that they'd become accustomed to it. When has that ever worked?

I'm not saying it's legal, I'm just saying that the music industry can't stop it. If they want to do something about making $20 million a day instead of $200 million a day then they need to come up with an idea to take advantage of the current situation instead of crying about how unfair it is like a bunch of women.

 

I thought we were only allowed to use hypothetical situations in this thread.

 

well technically yes. i am for free immigration. different topic.

it is about right and wrong or scale? when you lend your cd, and i copy it, and then i give it back to you, you should not either not take it back, or insist that i delete my copy. only one person can own the music at once. else you are just like jammie thomas, you are enabling unlawful distribution. and isnt that wrong, regardless of scale?

the question i really have is this. do you think the supply of music will be smaller, if current trends continue? do you think that rampant piracy will reduce the incentive for production such that society is damaged?

this is basically the same question: if you could magically clone wheat, and feed the world for free, would you oppose it because of the effect it would have on farmers?

 

ill chime in.

maybe he assumes they only listened to it. is the onus on him to question if they copied it? i assume the law says yes.

of course it is. if you are aware they copied it.

from a macro scale, no.

but i think the question is do you care that it takes the food off individual artist's table due to you stealing their work.

not just simply that there are others to take their place.

not if the person cloning it is being compensated.


music is creative property however. reproducing copies of something unique is not the same as cloning a crop. that record is unique to an individual artist or band and should be compensated for each license/copy being used.

while anyone can grow wheat--except russians.

 

why would i?

this is like asking me if i think it is ok that a robot has been invented that steals jobs from an autoworker. why do i care that a skill that used to have a certain type of value no longer does?

technology changes the world. it makes some skills lose value, and some skills gain value. perhaps technology will make it such that the careers of musicians in the future will be mostly about live performance, instead of distributing and selling recorded performance. so be it. plenty of professions require live performance.

 

i think the problem here is completely different perspectives. The dude on the assembly line does not have a unique talent that you are stealing. the person creating the music, does.

you should care because you are stealing his property without compensating him for it.

creating a technology that supplants a workforce is not illegal.