States petition to secede from union

it would work if done by states that are not awful. england is the size of a big american state and does fine. there is no reason south carolina couldnt sustain itself the way portugal or whoever does. of course most states are run by idiotic jerkasses so they would go straight to shit. but if Massachusetts was a country run by romney, it would surely be better off. Mississippi would go the greece route to bankruptcy.

 

your electoral college numbers are not relevant when discussing public sentiment, unless you literally think a person in ohio is more important than me or you.

if obama winning he black vote means R's are racist, does romney winning the white vote mean the D's are racist?

 

again, there is no relevance to mentioning the electoral vote when discussing popular sentiment. its a relic. it how we elect presidents, but it dosent reflect the public sentiment and is useless in that context. it is very possible to overwhelmingly win the electoral vote and have significantly more than half the people hate you.

you are right, everyone is racist. and the republicans are bad at keeping it a secret. i actually prefer when people are honest ad dont keep it a secret. and there is no chance democrats are less racist. racism is a part of being human.

 

I think you both can remove race from the equation and just say The Takers now outnumber The Givers in this country.....the curse of Democracy

 

Well, everyone is a taker in some form of another. Depends on your opinion base.


For example:

Hard line conservatives want lower taxes and less government. Liberals view this as conservatives "taking" revenue from the government. It can also be viewed as "taking" advantage of the lower classes of America.

Hard line Liberals what more social issues to be law and more social financial programs to support the people. (Education, welfare, etc) Conservatives view this as "taking" from the people, AKA redistributing (even in the form of so called "liberties" looking at you religion & pro-lifers).

 

id sure like to know what I am taking?

 

I don't think she was implying that all people of color are "takers"... at least I didn't take it that way. I think she just meant that more people are taking from the pot (black or white) than people putting in. Though I don’t think the math is there to support that.

 

i wasnt talking about color, I know she wasnt referring to that. Im just rejecting the notion that if you voted Democrat that you are a taker.