Spring Game info thread

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  1. downtown

    downtown Founding Member

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    What I'm getting at is that it had to be mostly runs (not so much passing).
     
  2. Fishhead

    Fishhead Founding Member

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    Well nobody said otherwise...just that he led some really long drives. Those two drives were kept alive at some point by him converting 3rd downs...but most of the third downs were short, because they ran a lot...and were VERY effective doing so.
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    I think it needs to be emphasized how impressive the kicking game was. 57 yarder...into the wind...to close the half.
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    They tried to emulate the two minute drill a couple of times...to work on clock management. CLM was miked up, and he was calling for this. However, to end the game, they started with a couple of nice quick outs, receivers would get what they could...then get out of bounds. Then all of a sudden, JJ couldn't find anyone...and started just scrambling around...probably took 7-8 seconds...then finally ran right up the middle for no gain. IMHO, this was totally on him. If I recall correctly, this was a first down play. He should've thrown the ball to Crowton out of bounds. He then followed that up with an INT to end the game. He looked awful.
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    I understand what people are saying about Lee, but I think it's being overstated. He did not look that great. He looked better than JJ...but quite frankly, that isn't saying much at all. Neither QB looked like a starter on an SEC power...and that is worrisome. The running game is leaps and bounds ahead of the passing game...in ALL phases. The WRs seem to be running crisp routes, but there were quite a few drops. As stated, the QBs were terrible. Also, the OL...although they dominated in the run game...did not keep the defenders out of the backfield on pass plays...and there was no blitzing.
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    The defense looked alright TO ME...although they still have problems tackling. But the first team defense was holding them to FGs. It doesn't bother me too much if the D gives up yardage...as long as they "don't break". Also, I like to see them getting turnovers. I think the defense will be equal to the task come fall...and the running game makes me feel like the offense will be OK...but just OK. Hopefully though, they can stay on the field long enough to allow the D to rest...which IMHO, was one of the problems last season. The defense was gassed late in the game...and it wasn't a matter of conditioning. It was a matter of a bunch of short unproductive offensive drives.
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    I don't know what we're gonna do with Murphy...but between Ford and Ridley, I just don't see him getting a ton of PT. He may be able to compliment in the passing game as a 3rd down check down receiver.
     
  3. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    JJ did not throw a pick 6. JJ's team won. Lee did throw a pick 6. On that basis alone, I pick JJ to start. We can't be spotting teams 6 points. You cannot ignore history.
     
  4. downtown

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    SabanFan - I agree 100%. I think people could probably guess that though.

    I am happy that Lee performed okay and did some nice things. And I'm not opposed to somebody other than JJ starting (although I don't think we have a real option at this point). I just don't think it would be a good idea to start JL unless there were a few injuries to QBs on the roster.

    JJ didn't light it on fire last year, but he did okay and protected the ball. We were in every game and lost only close ones. And if he wouldn't have gotten hurt against Bama (along with Scott), I feel like we could have possibly taken them down. As it happened, it still took a BS call on PP's interception to wrap that game up for Bama.

    I do have big concerns about our development of JJ (and he's not the only one). But at least JJ has proven that he can keep you in a game as long as you play pretty good D. And that was without a running game last year. Some will try to say that we didn't have a running game because our passing game wasn't great, but that doesn't fly. You don't need to have a passing game to get 200+ rushing yards against the Ragin Cajuns. And we couldn't do that last year. Considering our running game last year, JJ's numbers were pretty good. The amount of sacks was very bad though.
     
  5. LSU-SIU

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    Were you actually watching the game, you do know that both players played on both teams, right?

    Matter of fact, as soon as JL was on the white team they marched right down the field for a TD.

    I would continue to do what every team has done for 2 years... put 8-9 in the box... if Jefferson is in, protect against the rollout.
     
  6. Fishhead

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    I agree with this...

    And this...

    But the FACT is...JJ looked terrible. I don't care how you slice it...he wasn't even 50% completions...and he wasn't CLOSE on the deep ball. I agree Lee had the benefit of conservative play calls, which is why I said his looking better than JJ is overstated. Neither looked worth a crap.
     
  7. bhelmLSU

    bhelmLSU Founding Member Staff Member

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    Correct, Pick 6s also with not threat of being hit is a big concern considering we lost a few games for the same reason 2 years ago because of it.

    No denying both played horrible yesterday but that can not be said for the closed scrimmages where they both played better with JJ leading. Too much is often made of scrimmages and spring games. However, the main constant all Spring has been a great running game and stingy defense which is a good sign.
     
  8. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Yes,I watched the game. My point is that Lee's team lost because of the pick 6. You can't have that. And that's what Lee does. Every time out.
     
  9. LSU-SIU

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    That's one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. Hey if you don't like the kid that is one thing, to try to use the score as a basis of some stupid comparison is mind-blowing.

    I guess that solves it, Ridley is a better RB then Ford since he was on the winning team with most of the starters. You can select a QB off of astrology for all I care because what you are talking about makes little sense that I can see.

    Jefferson couldn't mount a comeback for purple because he threw an INT when they could have came back in 2 minute drill, so what? They both played on both teams, I can't think of a part of your posts that makes any sense what so ever.
     
  10. TigerCliff

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    he played on both sides!

    I know about the pick 6 but other than that one throw and even with that throw I would feel better with #12
     

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