Specifically, What do you like or dislike about Trump?

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  1. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    Should someone tell Reddit?

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  2. mctiger

    mctiger RIP, and thanks for the music Staff Member

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    You misunderstand; I fully support their right to protest. But they know their cause is getting co-opted and they're not trying to stop it. I'd simply like to see that happening. Go back to @onceanlsufan 's comment : The perception that police are hunting down and killing Black people is false and the result of false narrative perpetuated by the Left, Democrats and the Media. I agree with this, so my feeling right now toward the protests is, I'm with you on this point, but not your overall message. This particular cop is bad and needs to feel the wrath, but you're wrong about cops in general being your enemy. I'm seeing too many posts on social media that are saying, "OK, rioting's kinda bad, but its helping our cause, so I'm OK with it." Nope. If that's how you feel, you lose my support.
     
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  3. tzanghi

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    So then going back to our original disagreement, there is a positive impact to be had out of George Floyd’s death, and the protesters are capitalizing on that, which is good. The looters are also capitalizing on that which is bad and needs to stop. I don’t think the peaceful protestors have a moral obligation to make efforts to stop the looting, but I’m ok disagreeing on that, and I could honestly go either way on it. Overall, the fact that Floyd’s killing does not appear to be racially motivated is not of much importance.
     
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  4. onceanlsufan

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  5. mctiger

    mctiger RIP, and thanks for the music Staff Member

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    I don't see it as a moral obligation, more of legitimizing the whole movement. Remember, I'm saying I agree with convicting Chauvin, but disagree with the BLM premise of systemic racism among the police. If I saw protesters pushing back against the insurrection, I'd be more inclined to believe they are for law and order, rather than a lynching.
     
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  6. Bengal B

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    MLK's goal was to gain legal rights for black people. That's a whole different ball game.
     
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    mancha Alabama morghulis

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    No. He cares very much. He launches attacks on all people who criticize him. See Coffee Joe.
     
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  8. onceanlsufan

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    That will not stop a bad apple or two slipping through the cracks. It’s going to happen again. It’s going to happen to a black guy, and it will be reported just as today unless a Democrat is in power, then it’ll be glossed over, minimized. It’s going to happen to a white guy as well .... and you won’t hear shit about it.
     
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  9. tzanghi

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    It’s not really. First, I don’t think that premise is correct. I can’t think of any major legal right Blacks didn’t have in 1965. Second, even if that was part of his goal, his main goal was equality, including the eradication of racism. Third, while the current movement is not seeking an expansion of black rights, they are seeking a recognition of existing black rights that they feel are not being adequately respected, which is almost the same as seeking black rights. And above all, they are certainly aiming for equality. So it’s really not any different in the goals sought.

    Edit: you’re right about him seeking equal rights, and I got the year wrong.
     
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  10. Bengal B

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