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By The Oregonian Editorial Board
It’s a good thing there was photographic evidence establishing that acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf actually visited Portland last week. Because based on his florid statement about our city “under siege,” a reasonable person would assume the entire city is in flames and no one can go outside safely at night.

In Wolf’s Portland, a mob that “escalates violence day after day” has been terrorizing the city. He paints a picture of the Wild West or a future dystopia where lawlessness abounds, and local authorities sanction criminality. And in go-for-broke hyperbole, Wolf equates vandalism of the federal courthouse with an attack on America itself.

Yes, parts of downtown have been trashed. Many public and private buildings have been shuttered to protect them from further damage. But let’s call Wolf’s visit what it is: A political play by a Trump appointee using Portland as the backdrop. He is seizing the opportunity to create a false narrative of the federal government saving the day.

In truth, federal intervention has only made things worse. It’s telling that in Wolf’s extensive listing of incidents over the past several weeks, he neglects to mention the most violent act of these protests – a deputy U.S. marshal’s shooting of Donavan La Bella in the face with an impact munition. Video shows nothing suggesting that La Bella, 26, who was standing across the street from the federal courthouse holding a speaker over his head, was a threat to anyone. Yet a federal law enforcement officer fired, fracturing La Bella’s skull and critically injuring him. That Wolf would fail to even acknowledge such a severe injury exposes how suspect his definition of “violence” is.

But while state and local officials are right to demand that federal officers stand down, they also must take responsibility for allowing turmoil in downtown Portland’s conflict zone to persist as long as it has. While the apocalyptic picture described by Wolf belongs in a novel, four blocks in the city’s core shows the scars of the after-hours destruction that has followed protests over the past several weeks. Elsewhere, plywood now covers storefronts and office buildings, casting a pall of desertion over our normally vibrant downtown.

And the protests, now in their eighth week, have taken their toll on a police force vital to the community in ways ranging from stopping reckless drivers to responding to a spate of shootings in recent weeks.

Portland needs its leaders – the city council, county leaders, Portland-area state legislators and the governor – to say with a unified voice that protests that devolve into destruction have no place in our city. Unfortunately, it’s been easier for most of them to keep silent, weighing in only to condemn police tactics as opposed to embracing their responsibility as leaders to bring the community together.

It’s understandable why politicians would prefer to duck the issue or leave it to Mayor Ted Wheeler, as police commissioner, and City Commissioner Jo Ann Hardesty, as a longtime police reformer, to address. Policing protests – particularly demonstrations in which police themselves are the entity being protested – is an exceedingly difficult responsibility to execute and a politically fraught issue to navigate. The nationwide scourge of police brutality, particularly against Black people, is entrenched and abhorrent. And the shared certainty that something, somehow must change makes it politically risky to stand for any semblance – real or perceived – of supporting the status quo.

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Ummm..8 weeks of riots is what I would call under siege. Just ask Andy Ngo about the lack of police action and order. They are attacking people and destroying property DAILY. So far the federal officers are defending federal property which is their job. If I lived there I would be grateful DHS is trying to do something because the feckless elected local leaders aren't doing shit..... again ask Andy Ngo, assaulted in daylight, seen by and steps away from police and nothing, no arrest, no assistance, nothing..

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Ummm..8 weeks of riots is what I would call under siege. Just ask Andy Ngo about the lack of police action and order. They are attacking people and destroying property DAILY. So far the federal officers are defending federal property which is their job. If I lived there I would be grateful DHS is trying to do something because the feckless elected local leaders aren't doing shit..... again ask Andy Ngo, assaulted in daylight, seen by and steps away from police and nothing, no arrest, no assistance, nothing..
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I simply posted the Oregonians editorial, and said, "here's another perspective",.. since then I've responded to others,.. my only point, "it's not as bad as you're being led to believe",.. did you not read this,..

..... the editorial said, "based on his florid statement about our city “under siege,” a reasonable person would assume the entire city is in flames and no one can go outside safely at night."..... then a Tigerfan member who lives 2,000 miles away posted this, "Spend a week in Portland and you'll be running to the first open gun store that hasn't already been looted",.. lol, he's been drinking the kool-aid

.... the editorial said, "While the apocalyptic picture described by Wolf belongs in a novel, four blocks in the city’s core shows the scars of the after-hours destruction that has followed protests over the past several weeks".... then another Tigerfan member who lives 2,000 miles away posted this,.. "Downtown Portland is a complete shithole currently",.. ... it's not,"four blocks in the city’s core", is a miniscule part of downtown Portland

again, I'm not saying it's not a fucked up situation,.. I'm just saying, "it's being exaggerated and sensationalized",.. funny how that seems to piss some people off

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I simply posted the Oregonians editorial, and said, "here's another perspective",.. since then I've responded to others,.. my only point, "it's not as bad as you're being led to believe",.. did you not read this,..

..... the editorial said, "based on his florid statement about our city “under siege,” a reasonable person would assume the entire city is in flames and no one can go outside safely at night."..... then a Tigerfan member who lives 2,000 miles away posted this, "Spend a week in Portland and you'll be running to the first open gun store that hasn't already been looted",.. lol, he's been drinking the kool-aid

.... the editorial said, "While the apocalyptic picture described by Wolf belongs in a novel, four blocks in the city’s core shows the scars of the after-hours destruction that has followed protests over the past several weeks".... then another Tigerfan member who lives 2,000 miles away posted this,.. "Downtown Portland is a complete shithole currently",.. ... it's not,"four blocks in the city’s core", is a miniscule part of downtown Portland

again, I'm not saying it's not a fucked up situation,.. I'm just saying it's being exaggerated and sensationalized,.. funny how that seems to piss some people off
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Just some peace loving dope smoking hippies.

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I simply posted the Oregonians editorial, and said, "here's another perspective",.. since then I've responded to others,.. my only point, "it's not as bad as you're being led to believe",.. did you not read this,..

..... the editorial said, "based on his florid statement about our city “under siege,” a reasonable person would assume the entire city is in flames and no one can go outside safely at night."..... then a Tigerfan member who lives 2,000 miles away posted this, "Spend a week in Portland and you'll be running to the first open gun store that hasn't already been looted",.. lol, he's been drinking the kool-aid

.... the editorial said, "While the apocalyptic picture described by Wolf belongs in a novel, four blocks in the city’s core shows the scars of the after-hours destruction that has followed protests over the past several weeks".... then another Tigerfan member who lives 2,000 miles away posted this,.. "Downtown Portland is a complete shithole currently",.. ... it's not,"four blocks in the city’s core", is a miniscule part of downtown Portland

again, I'm not saying it's not a fucked up situation,.. I'm just saying it's being exaggerated and sensationalized,.. funny how that seems to piss some people off
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Yes I read it , wasn't directed to you. Sorry if it came off that way. Yes the press sensationalizes everything. But four destroyed city blocks is four too many. What about the property owners. This ceased being about police brutality or black lives a long time ago. It is about equal outcomes verses equal opportunity. it is about bringing the United States down. Equal outcomes instead of equal opportunity is Marxist Communism. If they want that they should move> Hell it's failed everywhere it's been tried. Ever notice how the violent protesters are predominately five foot tall white guys in all black with helmets and googles? They should take a minute and study some freaking history, otherwise go back to their mom's basement and crawl back on the video games.

Dr. King marched and preached for equal opportunity.These people don't want equal opportunity. They want Marxism. Peaceful protests my ass. These people are nuckin futs. Every where else in the world wants to be more like us. Just ask the people of Hong Kong. Hell people want to get here so bad they break the law to do it. And they're trying to turn the US into a third world country. Not having it. We are not perfect but our history is our history, and compared to the rest of the world, it shines like a beacon of hope for all.
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Just some peace loving dope smoking hippies.
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summer solstice was my birthday, sister drove down from Portland to celebrate,.. she's heard the word, "Tigerfan", many times, I quote you guys sometimes, showing her a different perspective, like you guys, she doesn't want to hear it, but that never stops me

during breakfast, I said, "I could vote for, Joe, except the dems have hardened their stance on abortion so much, I just can't",.. her husband said, "it's a woman's body, it's her choice", I said, "no, it's just plain wrong",.. he was shocked kinda offended, like, how dare I say such a thing,.. I couldn't help myself,.. had to say, "BLM, baby lives matter", then added a great line someone here said,.. "next they'll want to hunt down and kill babies that have already been born",.. I was the only one who laughed

another time, I we were talking about covid, "I don't blame trump so much, I blame others",.. omg, she got all ruffled up, like I'd hung a lesbian in effigy,.. she may never forgive me

she's like you guys, doesn't really believe I'm a moderate, thinks I'm actually in the enemy's camp

lol, she's never actually said it, but she thinks you guys ruined me

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Yes I read it , wasn't directed to you. Sorry if it came off that way. Yes the press sensationalizes everything. But four destroyed city blocks is four too many. What about the property owners. This ceased being about police brutality or black lives a long time ago. It is about equal outcomes verses equal opportunity. it is about bringing the United States down. Equal outcomes instead of equal opportunity is Marxist Communism. If they want that they should move> Hell it's failed everywhere it's been tried. Ever notice how the violent protesters are predominately five foot tall white guys in all black with helmets and googles? They should take a minute and study some freaking history, otherwise go back to their mom's basement and crawl back on the video games.

Dr. King marched and preached for equal opportunity.These people don't want equal opportunity. They want Marxism. Peaceful protests my ass. These people are nuckin futs. Every where else in the world wants to be more like us. Just ask the people of Hong Kong. Hell people want to get here so bad they break the law to do it. And they're trying to turn the US into a third world country. Not having it. We are not perfect but our history is our history, and compared to the rest of the world, it shines like a beacon of hope for all.
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yep, and most of the destruction is coming from knotheads in their 20's,.. that's always been a fucked up age group

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summer solstice is my birthday, sister came down from her little country town near Portland,.. she's heard the word, "Tigerfan" many times, I quote you guys sometimes, showing her an alternative perspective, like you guys, she doesn't want to hear it, but that doesn't stop me

we were talking, I said, "I could vote for, Joe, except the dems have hardened their stance on abortion so much, I just can't",.. her girly husband said, "it's a woman's body, it's her choice", I said, "no, it's just plain wrong",.. he was offended, like, how dare I say such a thing,.. I couldn't help myself, "BLM, baby lives matter", then a great line someone here said,.. "next they'll want to hunt down and kill babies that have already been born",.. I was the only one who laughed

another time, I said about covid, "I don't blame trump so much, I blame others",.. omg, she got all ruffled up, like I'd hung a lesbian in effigy,.. she may never forgive me

she's like you guys, doesn't really believe I'm a moderate, thinks I'm actually in the enemy's camp

lol, she's never actually said it, but she thinks you guys ruined me
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Feel sorry (not overly sorry) for your sister and apparently wimpy husband. Unless we stop the takeover of this country by DEMOCRATS they will be totally blindsided. I assume they are white which means they will automatically go to the back of the line for everything. They like millions of the "unwoke" will get what they thought was utopia in the form of a giant barbed wire dildo shoved up their asses. The usefull idiots you see in the streets actually think they will have a seat at the table, HA!

Recokning coming!

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lol,.. that's stupid, Nostradamus

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lol,.. that's stupid, Nostradamus
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In Denver yesterday, police watched and did nothing while Antifa and BLM thugs stormed the stage and broke up a rally.....a Back The Blue rally. I used to think the left were the snowflakes who would run home to mommy when things got rough. Its the right, not the left.

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lol,.. that's stupid, Nostradamus
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No it's Doc Holiday

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