Some points about LSU Football Head Coach Les Miles

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  1. KingEmeritus

    KingEmeritus ofthePoint

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    You never have to lecture me on the importance of recruiting. I'm not one of these people who doesn't value recruiting rankings. This is exactly why I said I hope I am wrong. I understand how good of a recruiter Les is. But, apparently that doesn't change the fact that I would rather get rid of Les and be right about him.
     
  2. Fishhead

    Fishhead Founding Member

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    The line is starting to become a little blurred...the one between who has the agenda, and who doesn't...
     
  3. Fishhead

    Fishhead Founding Member

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    Uh, you QUOTED him!!! :lol: In the post that you now say wasn't directed at him??? Per se??
     
  4. Fishhead

    Fishhead Founding Member

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    I get tired of the Miles bashing as much as you or anyone...but I would be willing to bet there aren't many on this board...if any...that fit that criteria.
     
  5. TigerCliff

    TigerCliff Veteran Member

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    this hands down is a balanced board

    love some of the grumps on board - I love Bama fans and the passion

    CLM needs to check this site out

    he gets a very fair shake :tigereye:
     
  6. Guido Merkins

    Guido Merkins Founding Member

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    1. If that's the case, that's fine, but what if something weird happens. Ball tipped in the air, ect. Wouldn't you want to take your shot and, at worst, have the FG still in your pocket. Not a smart move, sorry. It worked, so you can talk about how great a decision it was, but you want to leave nothing to chance and he left a lot to chance. You know as well as I do that a second or two always runs off the clock even after possession. You really want to count on a replay right there?? There was a replay in the Bama game last year, how did that work out? It was too close. There should have been 8-10 seconds, not 2-4.

    2. It wasn't a surprise. The DB was right there. It was a friggin jump ball that Byrd made a great play on. I never once said you don't take your shot and just leave it up to the kicker, but you make darn sure that there is no chance that you don't get, at least, a FG shot.

    3. I don't call a TO if I'm Tuberville in that situation. The clock almost ran out on Les.

    4. The Weedwacker Bowl comment was in reference to this coming season and was just my way of saying that if LSU wins 7 games this season Miles should be fired and I can't see how anybody would question that. If he wins 9 or more, it would be ridiculous to even discuss his job status, not with the schedule they have. 9 wins against the schedule this year is probably better than the 10 wins they had in '06 because there aren't 4 rent a wins this year. I think LSU will win 8 games this year during the regular season. 3 SEC losses and will lose one of the two OOC games.

    BTW, I AM the REAL Guido Merkins :wink:
     
  7. TheDude

    TheDude I'm calmer than you.

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    It hit the receiver's hands in the endzone with 4 seconds left. Tipped? So what? How long do you think punts stay in the frigging air, much less tipped passes?
    They did want that, and they got it. Which is why the clock was in the 20's when the play went in. Flynn and the wr's did not get set and hike the ball right away. Stop relying on your faulty memory and go watch the damn clip. It happened exactly like Fish described.

    That is a player side issue, not coach. But you are laying it at Miles' feet, so as a result you have no idea what you are talking about.
    It most assuredly was a surprise and it was not a jump ball. The ball was thrown past the db who could not turn around quickly enough. And db's cover receivers that run routes. It's kinda standard. It was a surprise to everyone in that stadium. You do yourself no favor trying to revise history.
    The point was that Tuberville factored in a FG and was saving his TO for his possession. He guessed wrong.


    Just look at the picture. No jumping here.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6vgQJvfZxtU/RxvRbw9wN6I/AAAAAAAAAO0/0Wnh1GoCQ5Y/s1600-h/demetrius+byrd_102107.jpg
     
  8. LSUtiger327

    LSUtiger327 Pow right in da kissa

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    i'm sorry i may be way off of this but wasn't the LSU AU d byrd play an audible btwn flynn and byrd???

    it wasn't even miles' call correct??!

    that's the impression i've been under since the week it happened.
     
  9. Guido Merkins

    Guido Merkins Founding Member

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    I can't watch the clip right now, so I'm willing to admit I might have some faulty memories, but if what I am getting from your post is that it's the player's fault they cut it so close, isn't that still Miles' fault for not warning his players that it could happen?? Shouldn't a coach do that, hense, he should have called a TO to go over all the scenarios??

    Look, I'll admit I'm not unbiased. I think Miles is an extremely good recruiter but a mediocre to bad game day coach. Saban and Meyer are better coaches with equal/better talent and Nutt and Petrino coach circles around Miles with inferior talent. I think he's got so much talent he stumbles into wins. Even the '07 team was not a well coached team, IMO. No way that team should have lost two games, especially to Kentucky and Arkansas.

    I don't want him to fail, but I have a feeling he's going to.
     
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  10. geauxgeauxhon

    geauxgeauxhon blah blah blah

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    The LSU-VTech game was the single best performance I've ever seen in *mumbles* years as a Tiger fan. Those players didn't coach themselves. And CLM coached rings around Jim Tressel in the BCSCG. I don't think he's a great game day coach, but he is not, IMO, just 'stumbling' into wins because of talent. I'll point out CLM's mistakes (like Malleveto), but I'll give credit where credit is due, too.

    No, we shouldn't have lost to Kentucky and Arkansas, but I can name off the top of my head a load of games we shouldn't have lost when we had so-called 'better' coaches at LSU...and a bunch of "shouldn't have lost' losses that more highly-respected coaches have had at other schools (Pete Carroll springs to mind immediately when I think of 'shouldn't have lost'). Teams lose, sometimes they lose really ugly games to inferior teams...even well coached teams.

    I don't want CLM to fail...and I don't think he's going to. Last year's record despite an offense ranked 112th isn't anything to overlook, nor is the fact that for the first time in two years, we have a starting QB with a season's worth of experience and a D that's in its second year with a new DC. We might not go 11-1, 12-0 next year, but I do think we'll see an improvement...and if we don't see any or get worse, I'll be the first to admit that I'm wrong.
     

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