So Russia is taking over the Ukraine

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  1. gyver

    gyver Rely on yourself not on others.

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    Democrats have done more damage to blacks than Republicans have.
    Barry got the the black vote because he is a 1/2 black democrat. If he lived in a ghetto somewhere the same ones that voted for him would have probably either killed him by now or discredit him for being a house Negro.
     
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    Keith Olbermann calls Michelle Malkin a lipstick meatbag

    Bill Maher co-star of the film flop House II, calls Sarah Palin a “dumb t*at

    Ed Schulz calls Laura Ingraham a right-wing slut

    Sandra Bernhard issues “gang rape” warning to Sarah Palin

    David Letterman calls Sarah Palin a slut

    Keith Olbermann implied that female conservative commentator S. E. Cupp should never have been born

    Jimmy Fallon’s drummer played “Bit*ch” song during Michele Bachmann’s appearance on his show (ABC called it “quite the trick”)

    Cloris Leachman calls Sarah Palin a slut on the Wendy Williams show
     
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  3. Winston1

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  4. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Then you can tell us exactly what Obama did to "screw" our "relationship with Russia". Surely you can do that.

    Bias? How about the Right determining that everything bad is Obama's fault, with no evidence whatsoever. Is that bias? How about the right's mantra that everything Obama does is bad, even when it's not. Even when they agree with it, such as in how we're responding to Russia right now. I've asked this question three time to three different knee-jerk Obama critics here. What should we be doing that Obama is not already doing? No one ever answers me.

    My opinions are never "blind". I always have reasons for what I think and I post them all the time. What is blind is routine Obama bashings that come without evidence . . . or even ideas.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    More blind Obama bashing that has nothing to do with the Ukraine crisis.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Putin’s decision to invade shows that he doesn’t understand globalization and Russia’s role in, and dependence on, the world economy. Edward Goldberg said:

    “Russia is the country that denied globalization under Putin, but it is now trapped by it,” he said. “Forty percent of your budget is tied to selling to Europe, you’re tied to only having one customer. They’re far more economically trapped than the Europeans.”

    "Russia’s explanation for its actions -- protecting Russians outside its borders -- is impossible to justify in the long-term."

    “There are so many things on this chess board that it’s amazing to me all the pieces being played,” he said. “You have Russia’s piece, and I think Putin overstepped. Their justification gave them the right to invade Brighton Beach, Brooklyn, where there are 300,000 Russian speakers.”
     
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  8. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    It's one thing to call someone something, it's something completely different when you legislate to oppress. Who cares what anyone calls anyone especially comedians. Where are the liberal politicians that are trying to create laws to rule a woman's vagina? Where are the liberal politicians that are trying to keep women and minorities from getting equal pay for equal work? Where are the liberal politicians who use an old book of Jewish fairy tales to justify bigotry and hatred, and deny climate change. I don't like democrats, they just happen to not be republicans. Republicans today are the southern democrats during slavery.
     
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  9. MLUTiger

    MLUTiger Secular Humanist

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    What exactly did Obama do to "screw it"?
     
  10. Winston1

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    Both W and Obama underestimated what the fall of the Soviet Union did to Russia. They discounted the loss of pride and the effect it had on the Russians. They especially miss understood and under estimated Putin and his intense dislike of the US and desire to restore the past. Both W in his comment "when I look into his eyes, I can see his soul" and Obama with his reset assumed Putin wanted to join the west while in fact he hates and fears us.
    He saw/see them and by extension the US as weak and open to taking advantage of.
    Only in the last weeks has Obama realized that Putin is another sort of cat and his prior approach is useless (I hope).
    So my friend the last 2 presidents have screwed the relationship with Russia.
     

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