Should we reopen the book on Evolution?

Who says?

You accept it on religious faith alone. There isn't a shred of historical evidence. We had a long thread on this several years ago. Have you discovered new historical or archaeological evidence?

Once primitive man couldn't see how you can explain the world without dozens of Gods. In time it was winnowed down to one God. And the process continues . . .

 

Then you are talking about religious hocus pocus, not science. Why don't you concede evolution and start a thread on religion? I'll let you get away with magical explanations if we are talking about religion. In the real world, you can't expect me to accept that there are demons who posses people. There isn't any evidence of this at all. I know some extremely religious Baptists who think Catholics are full of crap on exorcism, too. It's another faith thing. Priests and medicine men throughout time have prospered by inventing magical illnesses because its remarkably easy to cure them magically. Why can't the Priest cast out cancer?

Yes, but it's simplified and incomplete.

 

Sorry, it cost money to view the psychiatrists popular article, which is suspicious in itself. I did note that he admits that he is the only psychiatrist in the world who accepts the existence of demonic possession. Perhaps if he would write a scientific paper and present actual evidence, not the reports of priests and nuns, he might convince a colleague somewhere to support him, but right now he's The Lone Ranger.

You think Ph.D's can't lie? You think they can't be misinformed, delusional, crazy, or deranged in some fashion. Or perhaps just a publicity seeker.

I'm saying that they can't prove it, like they can't prove the bulk of their religious beliefs. I'm getting a little tired of you continuing to state that beliefs are facts.

 

No it didn't, it was alleged to have happened. There are thousands of admitted exorcism hoaxes, too. And not a single proven example that demons even exist, much less "possess" humans.

Of course it is, but mythology is far more deficient in providing any provable facts at all. But it's a nice story.

 

You can also infer that it is a fantasy created to make events seem conform to the mythological world.

It doesn't mean this at all. Science dismisses the supernatural as imaginary.

You should just resign yourself to being hopelessly mislead by your ingrained religious beliefs. You cannot redefine science to meet your curious notions.

 

My friend, science does not accept the imaginary. Nobody is capable of making correct statements about the imaginary, not even you.

Reality is different from material. Thoughts are real. Supernatural forces are conceptual at best and imaginary for all practical purposes.

Look, if there is a supernatural aspect of life that is NOT imaginary, you have only to produce it to convince me. It would be best if you could get God to produce it on demand. If God would go on Larry King and explain the mysteries of the universe, then I would accept that supernatural forces may exist.

Once again, I am not upset that you believe these things to be true. Just give up trying to logically explain your supernatural beliefs and have them accepted scientifically.

And try this on for size. I have some supernatural beliefs myself. But I am not foolish enough to proclaim that everyone must accept them as facts. I cannot prove my beliefs. Furthermore, it is not important for me to prove my beliefs to anyone or even to proclaim them, I am not insecure about them. I accept them as beliefs that that we will never have any way of knowing.

And I strictly separate my facts from my fantasies. I recommend this to you.