Politics Should Corporations

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  1. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    I think the changes were much more technical in nature. There is virtually no substantive change.

    Actually I would say it allows many people of moderate means to pool together to have the same voice as the Kochs or Soros.
     
  2. uscvball

    uscvball Founding Member

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    If Canada paid taxes to America (I know, why would they) would they become more American?


    Reform first, deal with inversion later.

    I don't see them becoming Swiss advocates or in any way avoiding their American roots or loyalties.

    "Dr. James Milgram, a former NASA mathematician and currently Professor Emeritus, Department of Mathematics at Stanford University was on the Common Core State Standards (CCSS) Validation Committee and refused to sign off on the CC Math Standards. He found no supporting research behind them and no international benchmarking as claimed.

    At a Common Core Forum in Baton Rouge LA, February 2014, he stated that California tried the same thing with math [like CC] for 18 years and finally determined that it was a failure. Because of it, remediation for 23% of college-bound students started in 1989, by 1997, the need for remediation for college-bound students increased to 56%, well over half of students entering college. Why would we experiment with our kids with methods already determined to be failures?

    Actually, in a letter to Diane Ravitch, he stated “. . . there is significant international evidence that major parts of the standards will not work . . . . it was tried on a national scale in Russia a number of years back and was rapidly dropped.”

    By the way, Dr. Milgram was the only mathematician with a Doctorate in content on the CCSS Validation Committee, and he states that U.S. math students will be two years behind other high-achieving foreign countries by the end of seventh grade, and even further behind by graduation.

    Common Core State Standards (CCSS) are touted as putting more emphasis on STEM—Science, Technology, Engineering and Math—and for making students college ready. In March of 2010, Dr. Jason Zimba, one of the lead writers of the Standards, confessed that CCSS are minimal standards for college-readiness. The minimally college-ready student is one who has passed Algebra II. He said CCSS Math is “ . . . not only not for STEM, it is also not for selective colleges"
     
  3. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    Call it what you like, technical in nature or not, it has been an utter catastrophe. I honestly don't see how you can say there has been no substantive change when we've actually seen a sea-change in how political campaigns are financed.

    As to your second statement, I would contend that "many people of moderate means" already had the opportunity to make contributions. Individuals were allowed to contribute up to $2500 if I am not mistaken.
     
  4. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    They would certainly become more attuned with America's interests. Their business would depend on keeping America happy.

    Why in the world would you imagine that? There will be legal conflicts. There will be Swiss regulations and politics to be catered to. You will see Swiss executives quickly. Do you have no issues with the overt tax dodging. Their business is not in Switzerland, it is in America. The loss of tax revenue will affect all of the rest of us.

    I can list a lot of impressive CCSS supporters as well. Everybody has an opinion. But standards cannot be raised if people insist on retaining the status quo. Changes must be made. There is more than math at play here, anyway. If these standards prove inadequate, they can be changed, upgraded, or replaced down the road. But this seems more like a "party of No" issue. Jindal supported it until Obama did, then it became kryptonite. Doing nothing is senseless.
     
  5. Rex_B

    Rex_B Geaux Time

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    We don't need any of those things.
     
  6. uscvball

    uscvball Founding Member

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    Dr. Milgram is not only impressive but he was on the validation committee and refused to sign off! That says something.

    CC is not focused on STEM. And yet if we were to talk about the "lighter fare" of public education, exactly how will states arrive at a common core for things like evolution....religion....sociology....

    And to address the concept of changing, upgrading, or replacing, what will you say to the states who are becoming dependent on federal rewards from RTTT for test results?
     
  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Right . . . go back to sleep now.
     
  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    People disagree.

    You are missing the point. To raise standards changes have to be made. How does letting the states all do their own thing lead to positive changes on a national scale?
     
  9. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    Now I know why you never post in the Good Eats forum.
     
  10. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Lol, I do on occasion. I have a few good veggie recipies.
     

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