Seriously...do we have a REAL reason why Lee doesn't play?

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  1. LSU-SIU

    LSU-SIU Founding Member

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    Because people are inherently delusional, some see a 4-0 team, other see a offense that couldn't win a game.

    There is no quick fix, the offense was destroyed last year completely by Crowton. It's going to take time, do you sacrifice a win or two to get the team going in the right direction long term or not.

    The Mad Hatter fooled everyone into thinking he is a Mad Hatter in 2007, nothing could be further from the truth. The longer this goes on, the harder the cure is going to be... this should have been done after the 2008 season.
     
  2. acemic

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    Here I think you are very wrong. Dont you remember 2007 with matt flynn. The offense looked good most game and spectacular in some instances. A qb with good instincts would go a long way in getting the ball to the playmakers. Watching the piggies and bama if the piggies had the defense we have ( they arent bad just not what we have) Mallet can get the ball to his playmakers. Also before you answer dont you remember who the OC was in the NC game of 07.
     
  3. Ahab the Arab

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    If JL were the starter instead of JJ, with his undeniable history I have no doubt things would be even worse! Grant it that neither QB will be worth a crap in Crowton’s option route system and with Studrawa’s offensive lines, but under current circumstances JJ is by far the better QB of the two.

    JL might do better than JJ under a different kind of offensive system altogether that could give him enough protection to allow him time to get his feet set to throw the ball, but I don’t know if that is even possible with today's SEC defenses. Nevertheless, because JL is so slow under the current offensive system and offensive line, JJ is by far the better QB of the two, and the coaches realize this, which is why JJ is the starter over JL.

    In any event, I would support giving JL a chance to start if for anything to quiet the fan base, as happened last season after the La Tech game.


    I’m not making up anything; I’m deducing what is inevitable based on past experience, as past experience is the best indicator of the future. Not to mention that you Lee homers were saying the same damn things last season until after the Bama and La Tech games when Lee even without a lot of pressure was atrocious. Hence, let Lee start and lets get this crap over with so you homers can see that Crowton is the problem.

    Okay, why is JJ the starter and JL is the backup? Is it some sort of devious coaching and player conspiracy to keep him off the field to wreck his playing career? By the way, how did JL do in 2008 and then again in 2009 when given the chance to redeem himself?

    What you mean, I’ve not only watched and then re-watched every game several times in the past few seasons, but I’ve also taken it upon myself to research Crowton’s history, and what I’ve found out is that Crowton’s calling cards are offenses that are very sloppy, undisciplined, and predictable, that Crowton doesn’t have the ability to make any kind of adjustments, and that he also has an uncanny penchant for making offensive stars look horrible, which, of course, is exactly what he has done at LSU.
     
  4. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    That is the question of the year. And you don't have any answers either.

    Sharia Law, no doubt.

    No worse than Jefferson, who keeps getting chances to redeem himself, while Lee does not.
     
  5. COTiger

    COTiger 2010 Bowl Pick 'Em Champ

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    JJ is 108th out of 114 in NCAA passing stats. Last night JJ was 10 for 22 for 75 yards.
    Could Lee possibly do any worse? What, other than losses is it going to take for Les to realize we aren't getting the production out of the QB position that we need to compete for the SEC crown?
     
  6. Ahab the Arab

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    I’m not deriding JL. I admit that he had a good performance in the spring game where the speed and intensity of the game doesn’t come close to replicating the speed and intensity of a real game, where he doesn’t have to worry about being sacked, where blitzing is not allowed, and where the defenses are about as vanilla as it gets.

    However, past performances are the best indicator of future performances, and in actual games when the speed and intensity of the game is at a much higher level than a spring game, JL has simply played atrocious at every opportunity he has been given. Hence, I see no reason to make me believe anything will be any different this time around.

    I mean last season you JL homers did the same exact thing until JL started, played, and stunk up the La Tech game. If he stunk up the La Tech game last season, what you think will happen against a team like WVU or an actual SEC foe?

    In any event, to silence you annoying JL homers, I’d support letting him start against Tennessee because it doesn’t really matter; with this dysfunctional offense we can’t win the SEC in any event.
     
  7. Fishhead

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    There are reasons for not letting Lee play, but like Ahab said...at this point, just do it and get it over with. Personally, I'd rather see Shep at QB...whether he can throw or not.
     
  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Do you think he can possibly be worse than Jefferson has played this season?

    If he is worse, then we can put Jefferson back in. But refusing to accept that Jefferson isn't cutting it is worse than delusional. It's a complete fantasy.

    Why even have reserve quarterbacks if you won't play them?
     
  9. Fishhead

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    You know he realizes JJ isn't cutting it. That said, I have no idea why he won't put Lee in. Like I said, there are reasons not to play Lee, but they are no stronger than the reasons not to play JJ.
     
  10. LSU-SIU

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    Crowton used all of Jimbos stuff, same thing has happened to Crowton everywhere he has gone. He was told not to break anything. That is when he started the whole substitute specific players for specific play calls crap. Everyone figured it out by the beginning of 2008.

    The offense in 2007 was above average, D and ST did the work, offense had cleanup duty and did their job and could rack up yards. Flynn knew how to run the offense, Crowton didn't break what wasn't broke. Flynn actually threw quite a few INTs 11.

    Crowton has done the same thing every place he has been. You are looking at years to destroy the offense, you are going to need years to rebuild it.
     

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