Alright I can't open his link on the bb. So does this prove or disprove that florida is self sustaining!
Ok, I'm coming to the conversation late, but LSU collects student fees as well. That's how we get into all sporting events (except football) for free. So I don't know if student fees is taken into account for self-sustaining.
UF's Ath. Dept gets over 2 million a year from student fees. For more info, scroll down. Add to that they receive over 1.3 million in goverement support as well. They are not self sustaining. This goes back to the original post from grad. Self sustaining is defined as the Athletic Dept. not receiving student funds. According to what I've seen, LSU's finacial reports do not include student fees in their revenue. Again, like I said earlier in the thread, money is shifted around University's in a variety of ways. But, in the reports I've seen (and I've seen 3 that didn't reflect student fees including in the reports LSU submitted) student fees aren't counted as a source of revenue for the Ath. Dept. in BR. http://sports-law.blogspot.com/2006/03/new-study-on-college-sports-finances.html There's one example, and if'll you'll notice Alabama as example, the 4% is coming from student fees which, in turn, cover the prices of tickets for the events they aren't "charged" cash for... The other link provided is a good one. It's dated (a couple of years back) and the $ amounts have increased but it'll give you an idea of how each school operates. Use the drop down menu and pick the school of your choice. For more info... http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ncaa+financial+report+database&btnG=Search
Just got back from Sean O'Keefe's class and we got on this topic for a minute some how. I talked with the guy who brought it up and he works with LSU in various ways one being financials of the Athletic Department. He wasn't some college kid but around 40 or so. He said self-sustaining athletic departments can accept student fees and still be consider self-sustaining as long as the fees go to other areas of the school. LSU's student fees go to the Recreaction Center which is not part of the athletic department and we are therefore is one of the schools. He did not know all of them but he said Nebraska and Ohio St. were probably too and wouldn't be surprised if Florida is the another. However, he was just guessing since most of the athletic departments do not release that sort of information to the public.
That’s interesting. Bama built our Rec center w/ donations from the Ath. Dept. It’s like I mentioned earlier, it’s all about how $’s are shifted around. I suspect it comes down w/ which dept. maintains the facility. Let there be no doubt, UF receives state funds…LSU & Bama do not. I suspect a lot of schools are self-sustaining and it all boils down to how it reported w/ each school. It boils down to outside support (ie: government/state.)
This is a really interesting topic, although these threads are a few years old... here is a 2010 report on FBS economcis of athletic programs by ESPN entitled "NCAA report: Economy cuts into sports" [ame="http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5490686"]NCAA report: Economy cuts into college athletics - ESPN[/ame] For answers on this topic see reports by Dan Fulks of Transylvania University. Looking forward to 10/15/11 at RockyTop, hope it is a hard fought game and neither team has a debaucle, like time or personnel mismanagement. Regards, and see also For Longhorns, Money Grows on Football Program Instead of Trees