There are plenty of fine debates here. You and I have had several. This thread never had a chance because it was so inflammatory. And you knew it was going to be. It's called Free Speech Alley. Because of this you can make inflammatory posts here and not get deleted. But you also may have people get right in your face for it, so you shouldn't be thin-skinned. Language that would get deleted on the other forums we let slide here. But you are right, we don't encourage name-calling and if it gets bad enough, people can be deleted or even infracted. Everybody should remember this. Because that's the way Brett wants it and its his board. There are those that demand that inflammatory posts be deleted, so you also benefit from a no-censorship policy. You kind of baited the gang with those remarks, amigo. You know this to be true.
yes, they did. in every war since war started, the army makes every dead man out to be a hero that died in a heroic battle. its something we do as a species. read a first person account of a war. the writer will always tell you s a story of a soldier that shat himself, wouldnt fight, sat around crying, and then got shot. then his parents are told he was a hero. that is standard policy, always has been. war is hard, they tend to smooth it over and it is to be expected. jessica lynch, pat tillman, whoever else, i expect their stories to be lies. its not a big deal.
You should read a book called "Friendly Fire". It's a very good book written about a couple whose son was killed in Vietnam. They became convinced that their son's commander was responsible for their son's death through his neglect and they pursued legal action for years and made inflammatory statements to the press in their grief and anger. The author followed and documented all of this. But the more the author investigated the story and especially after interviews with the young Captain (a man you have heard of) and men in his company the more he came to realize that it was just an accident and that the commander was not at fault. There are many to be blamed about the Tillman cover-up. But the incident was an accident and we should expect aggrieved family to be angry and upset and distrustful. It does not always mean that they are right.
i was asking for a reference and you did what I thought you would. I wasnt mocking you. I wanted to see what the source was so as to make a decision for myself as to whether I find it to be credible or total horse ****. No one said the government didn't lie. Have you ever considered the possibility that sometimes the truth may not quite be what you thought and that the reason for the refusal to fully divulge such sensitive information actually may be beneficial to us as a country. Not always. Sometimes. You telling me to find out by myself is lame and pretentious. If I ever get curious about anything I do find out by myself. I'm not a timid child. Your so eager for a rational debate but you are the least rational person in the conversation. You could give me a reputable source when you start telling me what Mr Tillman actually thinks or totally **** the bed and have nothing to back it up and send me on a wild internet goose hunt through tons of conspiracy theory web sites and blogs. Let's just say for ****s n giggles that I am a person that wants to learn more about what really happened.....where would you specifically have me start.....
I have no idea what to write in response to that. I am sorry for you that your mind interprets things in that manner. The only other thing I can express to you is that this is not what is supposed to take place in some sort of "debate forum" or whatever. If the title was in poor taste I apologize, it was not intentional. Other than that I do not apologize for anything I have written. You are supposed to be able to express ideas freely and hopefully come to some conclusion based on evidence provided by yourself and others. This should, theoretically, help a person come to better, more accurate conclusions about the issue at hand. Threatening me is absolutely asinine and as far as stomping a mudhole in my ass.....why even write that, man? If this is the discourse that takes place on this board with no response from any mods whatsoever then I can only say Red was correct, I have never won a debate on free speech alley because there are no debates on free speech alley. We have food fights instead.
Out of respect to Red and Brett and the other moderators, I took the mudhole stomping part out of my post.
I had no intention for this thread to be inflammatory. I wanted to see if anyone else thought it was suspicious that Seal Team Six was killed in the deadliest attack in the Afghan war shortly after they "eliminated" Bin Laden. That was all. The Tillman angle was simply to point out that deaths in military operations can easily be and have been falsely reported. Period. End of story.
