Ryan Perrilloux Status - Combined Threads

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  1. clair

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    Re: Ryan Perrilloux back on team per Buddy Songy


    if you would review MY posts, I get that.

    I have said numerous times that all the things he has done are dumb. I just don't buy the whole thing that he is ruining chemistry on the team and that there is becoming a rift, etc...

    All the players want him as their QB and always will, because no matter what Ryan does for the other 21 hrs, the players know the 3 hours of the game, he is a work horse and that he makes the team better times 100.

    These guys are here to win a title and to make it to the NFL. Great players make good players stand out.
     
  2. Nutriaitch

    Nutriaitch Fear the Buoy

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    Re: Ryan Perrilloux back on team per Buddy Songy

    In defense of most of the post I'e read, they usually say something to the effect of "potentially" cause a rift. And if you think that can't happen, you're fooling yourself.


    And that is why the other players are hoping he doesn't do anything stupid during the other 21 hours of the day.
     
  3. Fishhead

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    Re: Ryan Perrilloux back on team per Buddy Songy

    LEADERS make those around them better. Matt Flynn and Matt Mauck weren't/aren't on anybody's draft board for the first few rounds...yet both brought the :crystal: to LSU. Like you said, it's a business...all about WINNING. Until RP learns to be a LEADER...by example...I don't see the greatness of which you speak coming to fruition.
     
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  4. houtiger

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    True about leadership. But I remember Saban in 03 talking about how no single leader emerged on the 03 squad. He said he'd never seen anything like it, he kept expecting a leader to step forward in the spring, nobody did; same in summer camp, nobody did. He was worried going into the season, and nobody stepped up, but THEY WON games. As the season wore on, he noticed that the team didn't need a leader. Everyone was responsible for themselves. They did what the coaches asked, and you didn't have to prod them. When I talked to R. Reed here at work, he said in one sentence, great group of guys, everyone took care of business on their own.

    But then you have the Vince Young deal at UT, "Everyone who wants to win the nat. champ. show up for practice at 7 PM." That worked also. Not one way to get there, but the strong leader model is more the norm than "everybody take care of yourselves" like we did in 03.

    D. Byrd is a Sr., and he's made a little noise about leading and achieving.
     
  5. JohnLSU

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    We all see things differently, but I personally don't feel Flynn was an amazing inspiration to his fellow football players. During the season MVP discussion on here at the end of the 2007 season, no one nominated Flynn, which is why I felt bad for him and did so myself. As others have explained to me on here, Flynn wasn't anything special, but he did what we expected of him and he didn't make too many mistakes. The inspirational leader on offense last year was Hester. He's the main offensive guy whose on-the-field performance was inspiration to those around him. I believe RP is another type whose on-the-field performance will inspire those around him. I've seen a lot of people dog RP for non-football issues, and try to point out how such non-football issues makes him a poor leader. To me, such arguments are like saying that RP is a poor leader because he doesn't have a 4.00 GPA. To me, the only leadership that matters to your fellow football players is leadership in the world of football... being a great football player both during practice and during game-time, being a play-maker that makes such amazing plays that the entire team is inspired, etc. Similar to how Hester was on offense last year, and guys like Dorsey and Steltz were on defense last year.

    Also: I could understand the "leadership" issue regarding RP if he had a poor attitude, acted like he was superior to the rest of his teammates, treated the rest of the team like crap, had a hard time getting along with the rest of the team, was hated by the rest of the team, was disrespectful to the coaches, etc... but I don't believe that's what's going on. Sure, RP ran his mouth BEFORE he joined the team about how great he was, and I think that's the main thing that grudge-holding Tiger fans have against him. But I don't believe that's been going on since RP has been on the team. And even if it has, I haven't seen anybody make that accusation when they trash him on here.
     
  6. clair

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    great post.

    leadership is overrated by the measurements you all like to put on it.

    Leadership is what happens on the field... and that's it.

    these kids don't want or look for a role model, 4.00 student who works for charities to lead the team.

    you're only a leader if you get it done on the field. that's 95% of the battle.
     
  7. TigerBait3

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    This is the most overrated thing in the world and I am glad someone finally said it.

    People have pet peeves, I just guess mine are weirder than most. But mine includes people with "heart" and leadership. 99% of the people have never met these people and dont get what goes on inside of a team, and players generally find leaders to be people that the media doesnt notice. Players that are chosen to speak in front of the media are generally the more articulate guys and arent necessarily favored by their peers.

    I am sure Clair could tell you guys the fans love that the players hate. When it comes to games talent shows up and leaders emerge, and it isnt because of how cute they look to the fans. The players loved Jamarcus but fans didnt think he was a leader for whatever reason. And we have had a couple of recent all sec players recently that fans said played with "heart" and were leaders that the players hated and dont want to ever see again.

    Sorry, rant over.
     
  8. lasportsmen

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    Being a woman, I doubt you have ever put on a football uniform at any level, which is a fundamental problem of any woman commenting on sports or anything you have no clue about!
    It's like a guy discussing child-birth acting like he knows what a woman goes through...he may have seen it a 100 times, but it doesn't make him an expert.

    Your comments are proof that women need to stick to commenting on needle-point and cooking, and not much else.

    RP has shown a lack of character from the moment when he de-committed from UT. Showed even less character when he made back-handed comments about Russell and Flynn as players after he signed.
    If RP has been unfairly treated in this whole matter, then you Miles-lovers need to criticize the man who put him in this situation.
     
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  9. Bandit88

    Bandit88 Old Enough to Know Better

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    First of all, are you sure Clair's a woman? ;)

    Second of all, some of our funniest, best, most knowledgeable, most prolific, most dedicated posters are women.

    I couldn't even read the rest of your post because that first line was like a brick wall with the words "Don't read! I'm a dumb@$$!" spray painted all over it.

    FWIW.

    You'll change your mind about this at some point, my friend. Leaders impact their followers in subtle but profound ways 24/7/365. They live in fishbowls. I believe you may be confusing popularity with leadership.
    I think it's about 75% of the battle, but you are correct. Credibility is huge for a leader. But the other 25% is what differentiates a prima donna from a team leader. And that 25% happens in the locker room, the weight room, the film room, the classroom, the bar room, etc.

    When you are in a leadership role, NOTHING you do in public is irrelevant. It all matters to the folks you lead. Just because young folks don't understand this doesn't mean it's not impacting them EVERY SINGLE PRACTICE, EVERY SINGLE DAY.

    Ahhhhhh crap. I just realized. This is the thread I said I was out of...

    Well, blame it on lasportsmen, I guess...and my advancing age...
     
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  10. LSUMASTERMIND

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    This comment is proof that you cant sustain a valid debate. Very sexist to say the least.:nope:
     
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