Ryan Clark says Joey B can make big time NFL throws

@TigerTap Saints took Will Clapp last season, but their apparent disinterest in LSU players annoys me as well. But I can understand losing interest in a team. You mentioned being at the first game. My first Saints game in person was in '68 and I do remember it. Lost to the Cardinals when they blocked what would've have been a game-winning FG at the final gun. I grew up in nola and saw about 75 games in person before I saw my first live LSU game. Manning's debut, Dempsey's 63 yarder, the 20 minute delay of game by booing fans vs the Eagles, Dome debut....I was there for them all.

What I'm probably remembering about Debo is that it seemed to take a long time for them to "discover" him and use him full time. You're right, in his last season, he was a beast, but he seemed relegated to special teams before that year and I just knew he could do more.

I can get not just wanting to be a cheerleader, and I really think you don't have a whole lot of that in here. Hell, I was labelled a Sunshine Pumper for awhile. I'd say I was one of the last to jump ship on Miles. He accomplished more than perhaps any coach in LSU history. But by 2016 it was time for a change. Here's a great example of where you may differ with most people in here. You've been pointing out the Bama shutouts ad nauseum lately. No one can dispute that they've owned our offense since O's been at the helm. But here's the thing: in Miles' last 6 Bama games, we averaged 12 a game. Now shutouts suck, but you never seemed to want to admit that 12 wasn't getting it done.

Orgeron was the logical choice in the interim; he was the only guy on staff with HC experience. Was he the right choice to get the job permanently? Probably not, but Alleva got played on Jimbo and Hermann and we were stuck. I think he's played the hand he's been dealt, successfully in some case and poorly in others. I also have the feeling he'll be on a short leash with the new AD, but he'll be given a chance to succeed.

There are a few "agenda" driven fans in here (hey, I've coined a phrase). Hell, we probably all are to some extent. That doesn't mean we can't all be honest about what we're seeing "in the moment." That's what makes the game threads so great....people praise what works and criticize what doesn't. I mean, you may hate the coach, hate the coordinator, but when the offense if lighting up UCF in a bowl game, its OK to let us know you're enjoying it.