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  1. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    If that happens Les can put Lee back in.

    If that happens Les can play Lee.

    Look, I like Lee too and hopes he continues to start. I just can't see why so many people perceive Jefferson as some kind of threat to team unity or that he will automatically make the offense fall apart.

    Jefferson got pulled last year for Lee when he underperformed. This year Les has Lee and Mettenberger. He doesn't have to leave Jefferson in if it hurts us. But if Jefferson returns and turns out to be the quarterback everybody at the Manning camp raved about, then he can help LSU this year at some point.
     
  2. stegaman

    stegaman Founding Member

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    any word on what time we can expect to hear what the grand jury decides to do today?
     
  3. onceanlsufan

    onceanlsufan Founding Member

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    And HERE is the big question. By inserting JJ and letting him "compete" ..what will that do to the existing confidence of the offense.

    ... the very act of inserting JJ could by default be at the expense of the team winning the game. It could destroy the certainty that exists, by introducing an uncertainty.

    I'm sticking with islstl's position. Lee remains the indisputed starter, no questions asked .... with JJ being used here and there for a down or two in situations.

    BUT ... JJ does not get an entire series of downs. You run the risk of JJ performing well, creating a false impression that he will perform well everytime he's on the field .. which history says just is not going to happen, especially when he is under pressure. Next thing you know, JJ wins the right to run a whole series ... the next thing you know we're back to the 2 QB crap of last year, and the next thing you know, he's stinking up the field again.
     
  4. COramprat

    COramprat Simma Da Na

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    Flip flop the roles from last season. Lee is the starter and Jefferson comes in for a series or two. Or put him in at tight end.
     
  5. mach316

    mach316 Founding Member

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    Please quit saying reshirt JJ. I have been waiting for him to graduate a long time. Good kid I'm sure but he is definitely not an SEC caliber QB. Lee is our guy unless injured and Mett is there to back him up. Geaux Tigers!!
     
  6. onceanlsufan

    onceanlsufan Founding Member

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    Red ... I don't know, it goes back to the perception that I have of him. .. and hey, it is what it is. I just can't see Jefferson "patiently" being Lee's backup. I can't see him comming back to the team, and not expecting to be given the chance to win back his starting position. Maybe I'm just an a55 hole, but hey, we exists. I've thought that Lee got a raw deal from CLM last year ... period. When Jefferson was "pulled", and Lee came in and won the game, Lee should have been allowed to start the next game ... just like we saw with Tannerhill at A&M .. the starter was BENCHED. Lee NEVER had the opportunity to be the "starting QB" last year. He never had the opportunity to get in the rhythm he as established this year. While Lee has proven he is comfy at patiently being JJ's backup ... I don't think the two guys have the same personality. .. but like I said, that is just my a55 hole perception. .. I could be totally wrong.

    I won't dispute that Jefferson was "pulled" for Lee last year ... but at no time did Lee have an opportunity to take over the offense. Lee wins the game, .. Jefferson started the next game. Lee wins another game, Jefferson started the next game. It's as if CLM gave Jefferson every opportunity their could be to perk up, .... and BE his starting QB.

    CLM OWES Jarrett Lee the same loyalty that he showed JJ last year. I'd say even more so than JJ, as JL's undoing was a direct consequence of CLM's mistakes at managing his QB positions, thus having a true freshman thrown out to the wolves before he was anywhere near ready.
     
  7. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    Lee is easily a better leader. I've never seen him pout like a punk.
     
  8. onceanlsufan

    onceanlsufan Founding Member

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    +10

    And that is why I can't see JJ "patiently" being Lee's backup. He'll demand to be able to have the chance to win his job back .. .and that's going to cause a disruption of the offensive rhythm.
     
  9. Pennsylvania

    Pennsylvania Go easy on me

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    You got it!
     
  10. lsu_dane

    lsu_dane Founding Member

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    If that's the case then we can compare just straight up TD's which the stats are even more slanted in Lee's favor. We've scored a TD 80% of the time in the redzone this year compared to 52% of the time last year.

    I'm not comparing individual numbers because this is about how well the TEAM performs with either QB in the game. Now if you're saying I should go back last season and assess every drive Lee had in the redzone and remove it, no thanks. 1) Lee didn't have many drives in the redzone last year, and those he had he converted. This wouldn't skewer the numbers in Lee's favor. 2) How do you assess a drive where Lee makes one pass in the redzone to the 2 yardline and Miles puts JJ in for a handoff score?

    Instead I simply decided to give JJ credit for every drive last year. This wasn't a negative. This actually BOOSTED his redzone %. But even with that boost it's clear with JJ in the redzone we convert TD's less than with Lee.

    The myth that JJ somehow makes it harder on DC's in the redzone isn't backed up by statics.

    Ironically enough you wanna know the last time we were converting 90%+ of the time in the redzone? 2008. We were also scoring TD's 73% of the time in the redzone that year. Over 20% higher than last year.
     

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