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rachellsu01 Im gone people, its been fun

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TBob53T-Bob Hebert

I just heard about this alleged argument that took place between me and coach miles before the game, there is absolutely no truth to it

rachellsu01, Jan 13, 2012

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You mean I am not leading the "move on" movement? LOL.....I hear you.

I guess my point is this: why is it so hard to believe that we just got beat because Alabama prepared and played better than us? we have a young team who were told for 40 days that they could be the greatest team in the history of college football, who also didn't think Bama deserved to be in the BCSNCG (as evidenced by several players comments) and whose coaching staff failed to out fox Saban and his staff?

I lend credibility to Gordy's story because it came from bhelm and he is usually not one to throw shyt against the wall. I just think there is less to the story than many suspect.
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Totally agree. The thing is, I can accept the loss and that Bama was the better team. The hard part is that it was SO bad and SO difficult to watch that it's hard not to believe there is at least somewhat of an explanation besides what Bama brought to the Dome. I don't want to come off as not giving Bama credit. They deserve it but I'm sure even Bama is surprised at how ineffective we were and that we went down in flames without even using everything we had. That WAS NOT the same team we saw for 12.5 games

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Agreed also. Alabama was given a huge advantage with this rematch. How can a team not look at an opponent that they already beat, have to play their way into the championship game, and not look at Alabama or that game with some disappointment. You are taking the biggest victory of the season for those kids and saying it didn't mean squat.

Alabama had nothing to lose, LSU had everything to lose. And it showed, this wasn't LSU that we saw Monday night, it was a shell of a team that really didn't grasp the fact that they are playing an injured animal with nothing and I mean nothing to lose.

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TBob53T-Bob Hebert

Also me and Jordan never fought; this team is a team full of brothers and we always played for each other over everything else

@TBob53T-Bob Hebert
Nothing out of the ordinary happened before the game

he is going off on all the rumors right now

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“@_GeauxTigersGo: @TBob53 so are all these stories much ado about nothing?” correct

rachellsu01, Jan 13, 2012

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rachellsu01 said: ↑

this team is a team full of brothers
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damn coonass bringing up race.

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Oh Lord please let this part be true!!!
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i thought you wanted miles to stay?

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tirk said: ↑

damn coonass bringing up race.

lol :rofl::rofl::rofl:
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rachellsu01, Jan 13, 2012

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It's good to hear that coming from TBob.

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ASD said: ↑

Fine. No fight. Still leaves questions. SOMETHING happened with this team.
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Yep. They played a great opponent, had a terrible game plan, and got their asses handed to them.

In the words of Freud, sometimes a banana is just a banana.

This guy puts it best:

The need to believe (or the fallacy of LesGate) | The Accidental Cajun

I opened my email this morning to a letter. Actually, not a letter, but a forward of a letter. It was passed along by a fellow LSU fan. By now I am sure many — if not most — avid LSU fans have seen the same letter, which, going forward, will be called The Great BCSNCG Conspiracy of 2012, or more simply, “LesGate.”

I am not going to dignify the content of “LesGate” by including it here, but suffice it to say, it had all the hallmarks of a great conspiracy theory: a semi-plausable premise that falls apart under closer scrutiny; unnamed friends, friends of friends, and “insiders” as sources; the cold copper penny taste of paranoia; rival factions whose actions can now clearly be understood in light of the now present “facts;” and of course, a villain, or in this case, villains, who are responsible for the downfall of our hero.

However, it is not my interest to discuss the theory itself; the theory is unimportant. What is important is understanding why, for so many LSU fans, this is the only reasonable explanation as to what occurred on January 9th.

And what did occur on January 9th? Probably the most bitter, one sided loss in the history of college football. It was an absolute ass kicking. It was Tyson-McNeely or ’85 Bears v Pats. It was a bullying. It was ugly and embarrassing, like watching spouses fight. And in the end it was humbling.

One thing it was not: a setup. To suggest that “LesGate” is true is not only demeaning to LSU’s players, coaches and fans, but to Alabama’s as well. One team came prepared to play, the other did not. End of story, or it should be.

But it is not, as “LesGate” seems to gain more traction among certain LSU “fans” every day. I imagine these folks are the same as those who see “the Grassy Knoll” or 9/11 and think “inside job.”

And I can understand, to some degree, why — because it hurts; and when things hurt, we want to find out why. We want to make sense of the pain. And when things seem chaotic and wrong, we want to find order and justice. This is natural human impulse, but for some it takes a dark turn. Whereas most fans will accept the fact that we were simply outplayed and out-coached, others need to reinvent it, so we were somehow cheated, rather than defeated.

This is the premise of “LesGate,” with its villians, Jefferson and Miles, it’s unavenged hero, Jarret Lee, and the shadowy insiders who tell of rivals factions in the locker room. It explains everything; gift-wraps it into a nice little package with a bow on it.

Because who wants to believe, at least on this night, that Slick Nick was a better coach than Les?

Who wants to believe that Alabama played with more heart and more fire than our boys in front of our hometown fans?

And who doesn’t want to believe that somehow, some way, if only he saw the light of day, that Jarrett Lee couldn’t have found a way to lead us home?

The problem is, just because you believe it doesn’t make it true.

Yet, that’s why theories like this gain credence, because some people would rather a convenient little story that explains everything rather than admitting that maybe we just weren’t good enough. A little story that says no matter what, we never really had a chance to begin with. The fix was in. We were done dirty. Then it becomes easy to find the authors of this villainy, and call for their heads. It becomes a game of “if only” and “what if.”

The problem with “what-ifs” is that they never were; and problem with neat little stories that explain everything is that they are called fairy tales, and are only meant for children.

Because for the rest of us, life is a sometimes messy, senseless event that can seem cruel and unfair.

Sometimes the bad guys win.

Sometimes the redemption you are looking for never comes.

Sometimes the hometown kid doesn’t make good: the prodigal son unreformed.

Sometimes the there is no closure.

And sometimes — in fact, almost always — the truth hurts: that you just aren’t good enough. For some, the implications of this are too much to bear. For those that validate their existence through the actions of 18-22 year olds on a football field, it is far too much to bear, and they lash out like children with their wild conjectures, avoiding the truth at all costs.

Yet the truth still perseveres, and in this case, the truth is, on January 9th, Alabama was a better team from start to finish, top to bottom. This is the only story that matters.
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Yep. They played a great opponent, had a terrible game plan, and got their asses handed to them.

In the words of Freud, sometimes a banana is just a banana.

This guy puts it best:

The need to believe (or the fallacy of LesGate) | The Accidental Cajun
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Yeah Think I'm just gonna have to accept it. Does no good to do otherwise. I will always wonder why JL never saw the field but the one truth that can't be disputed is that Bama kicked our ass.

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QBLuke said: ↑

Yep. They played a great opponent, had a terrible game plan, and got their asses handed to them.

In the words of Freud, sometimes a banana is just a banana.

This guy puts it best:

The need to believe (or the fallacy of LesGate) | The Accidental Cajun
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This is the greatest post I have ever read. Wow.

SonnyLoco, Jan 13, 2012

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