Politics Roe v Wade

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  1. onceanlsufan

    onceanlsufan Founding Member

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    I still think if flat out HILARIOUS that a bunch of pompous ass LEFTIST like you, bitched about a Law that only applied to less than 4% of all abortions, took it to court, and got Roe v Wade reassessed and thrown out!!

    It's just doesn't get any better than that!
     
  2. mctiger

    mctiger RIP, and thanks for the music Staff Member

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    I don't know how many species of bull there are in the world, but this is every species of bullshit. This debate has been going on for 41 pages, and not a single pro-lifer in the debate has invoked God's name. The arguments have been scientific, not religious (and if you're going to invoke His name to defend the right to murder babies, at least use the proper form. "God", not "god.") But let's explore your claim that its about self. You're one word off....its self responsibility. My wife and I have one child. You know why we have one? Because we didn't want two. That's responsibility. You seem to think that because some tramp let herself be used as a cum bucket, the rest of us are responsible. I actually heard some pro-baby murderer yesterday say, "I understand that by having sex there's a chance I might get pregnant, but that doesn't mean I have to accept the responsibility of an unwanted baby." Really? So if you drink and drive, you shouldn't get a DWI because you didn't plan to get drunk? Or to use one that we actually do hear, if I go to college and can't find a job, I shouldn't have to pay my student debt? Why is it in Democrat land, responsible people must pay for the irresponsible? Fuck. Every. Bit. Of. That.
     
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  3. Rex

    Rex Founding Member

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    Not true, as a simple scroll will show. Not that would refute the point, anyway.

    Women who don't want to carry a pregnancy to term because they don't want a child, or because the pregnancy is harmful to them, ARE doing the responsible thing, no matter which way they decide.

    It's pretty sad that you would call the victim of rape or incest a "cum bucket", and YES YES YES if you force ANY woman, rape victim or not, to carry a fetus to term you're damn right you should be responsible.
     
  4. Jmg

    Jmg Veteran Member

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    why do you keep marginalizing pregnant men?

    is it because you need to create a narrative of white men controlling women? yunno women are more pro-life than men.

    also you are now claiming you oppose very late term abortion. is this because you dont think women have the right to control their own bodies?
     
  5. mctiger

    mctiger RIP, and thanks for the music Staff Member

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    I would not refer to a rape or incest victim that way, but those women make up an extremely small percentage of the women seeking abortions. Women who CHOOSE to have sex (unprotected or not) knowing the natural conclusion that procreation is supposed to reach, and then believe they are being responsible by terminating the life growing with them, are beyond contemptible. And no, they are not my responsibility because I would not be forcing them to get pregnant.

    Women who abort because of a medical risk to themselves or the unborn child are in an entirely different situation from women who abort because they simply don't want to be pregnant. "I demand the right to do whatever I want, but if the consequences or my actions are difficult, its someone else's problem," is an incredibly infantile definition of responsibility.
     
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  6. BAY0U BENGAL

    BAY0U BENGAL I'm a Chinese Bandit

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    No what’s sad is that you know exactly what he’s talking about, but you couldn’t wait to pretend like you didnt. And if you don’t get it, then you aren’t as smart as you tell us
     
  7. Rex

    Rex Founding Member

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    That's pretty cheeky... to call somebody "irresponsible" for wanting to avoid a consequence YOU made them take.

    You have ZERO valid reason that a woman should carry a pregnancy to term against her wishes, and then you argue that she should be punished for doing so. As I see it, your protest against my SELF explanation FITS YOU TO A T. It's not about the child who will be hurt because the mother can't afford him/her and might not want him/her anyway, it's all about forcing her to fullfill YOUR religious wishes.
     
  8. Jmg

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    didnt you just say you want to ban late term abortions
     
  9. mctiger

    mctiger RIP, and thanks for the music Staff Member

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    You're the only one bringing religion into the conversation. I don't need God to tell me its wrong to kill a baby. And no, I don't want to be responsible for someone else's poor decision and refusal to take responsibility for their own actions, nor will I apologize for it. I'm a parent and a grandparent, and I have in-laws who couldn't have their own child and adopted the child of a woman who made the responsible decision to not make a baby pay for her poor judgement by killing it. I see a baby as a blessing; if you see it as a punishment, I feel sorry for you.
     
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  10. Rex

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    If the only available choices are zero abortions allowed or abortions allowed without restrictions I'd certainly choose the latter.

    My agreement with Roe v. Wade that a state can prohibit third trimester abortions is not about the fetus. I couldn't care less about a non-person. It's about settling on a social compromise, to an insoluble problem, that upsets the fewest people.
     

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