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yeah u r right, there are always articles, but thats the thing, if the artilces are out there, then what kids that are on the bama roster were told they would play the jack position in the last few years that are not playing that position. thats like rival schools during recruiting last year telling recruits that Bama had like 6 jack LBs but in reality they had Upshaw and 2 freshman. if the recruit believes it without doing the research then thats his fault and the strategy works. but as evidence shows it usually works out for teams like Bama and LSU because some of these kids are smart enough to not get caught up in listening to false info spreaded by rival teams.

 

Wow, what a troll.

What does the depth chart have to do with recruitment in this case? The OBVIOUS implication here is that kids are being told they would play the position, then end up at another position once everything shakes out. I actually see no issue with it. It happens all the time. But for you, RRM, to try to imply that the only kids offered to play the Jack are the ones that are listed there on the depth chart is grossly disingenuous. Why would these kids say they were offered to play the Jack otherwise? Just to say it? Whether you like it or not, it is a recruiting ploy, because that is a great position to play. Whether the recruiters are being genuine is another issue.

But you're the "not a Bama fan" that knows everything about Bama right?

 

i know kids are told one thing and sometimes they end up elsewhere when they get on campus, most schools do it.
u missed my point though. im asking what kids were offered to play jack at Bama that are not playing jack right now at Bama. if u cant answer that then u r saying something that u dont know is true or not. im not saying it isnt a recruiting ploy but to say something without proof is pretty much an opinion and means nothing at the end of the day.

challenging someone on a statement is not trolling. so dont get mad because someone has a different opinion on a matter. we all have our opinions. no harm done.

 

agreed. eventhough a jack does alot more than a traditional DE that sometimes drops in coverage i understand what u r saying. just responding to asignupe99 who called it BS but had nothing to backup his statement. i can only go by what I read based on the guys that were on the roster the last few years that were told they would be DEs and the others who were told they would play the jack. we had some rival teams saying Devall was recruited as a Jack and thats y he chose Bama but actually he was never told he would play jack, he was recruited to play inside or the Sam (OLB) position but u know how that goes its all part of the recruiting game.

 

Interesting you mention Devall, RRM. I didn't bother with this "proof" nonsense you're speaking of because I thought distinguishing between what you're implying and what everyone else was implying was enough. But Devall is my #1 example. He IS my most recent proof. It's comical that you're asking for proof...meaning a person would have to sit and sift through past years of recruiting info to prove a recruiting ploy, when all you did was click a link and look at depth chart. So I initially ignored it thinking you'd see the difference. But here goes.

See, there's a little something called a personal relationship at play here. Devall and I are from the same place. He's much younger than me and I don't know him well enough to say I know him personally, BUT, I played with his position coach in high school and he's one of my long-time friends. He just got a head coaching job at Lake Providence. We talked about Devall this past February when I introduced him to the main booster in Lake Providence. He was in the room several times when Devall was BEING RECRUITED FOR THE JACK. When he told me this was the primary pull away from the state, my response was, WTF is the Jack? I had never heard of it in that term. He explained it quickly...it was just like our Rip back in our playing days and just like the position Devall played most of his junior year. So I get it. He's not even officially on campus yet and already he's been told he probably won't play there, but he's okay with that. Just like he was okay with playing DE at LSU, but it was the allure of playing basically the same type position that he played in high school that led him east.

The crazy part is that this isn't even an issue for me. I see nothing wrong with this. You put a kid in the best position to be successful for the team. Often times, that's different than where he's recruited. Liggins for LSU is a QB recruit...but when it comes down to it he might be better off on defense. Just the way it works. But you seem hung up on this notion that the only kids that get offered at this ONE position are the ones that are listed there on the depth chart, and that's BS. It's quite simple to me. Why do you even need proof? You guys got Collins at FS, but he's just as great with the ball in his hands. He might get on campus and coaches decide he needs to play on O. What's the big revelation? Are we done with this now?

 

its not an issue for me either, its part of recruiting, its just the fact u dont know who else on Bama team was offered to play jack in the last 3 years, period. im not going to get into you knowing Devall personally or what was so called said behind closed doors because I was not there, i can only go by what was public. I know he was told he could possibly play any of the other 4 LB spots, so jack is one of them. LSU wanted him as a traditional DE, he didnt like that and thats y Texas A&M was the main threat to Bama for him. thanks for responding, this was alot better than that first repsonse u gave, lol. now we can leave it alone.

 

The caveat there is...neither do you. NOW we can leave it alone.

 

i named them, now its your turn. well nevermind.

 

You looked at a depth chart. Groundbreaking.