Dude, we can't keep going back a few posts and rehashing the same old crap. If you are going to put Bolden (who has 2 years of experience) in the same group as Vick, Tebow, and Newton then we can't continue this discussion. You have started from a totally ludicrous postition and you are making the rest up in your fantasy. I compare him to JJ because his stats are the same as JJ's. I start from a practical place. You are delusional. A bad QB with bad recievers (Bolden) is not much better than a bad QB (JJ) with good recievers. If you start off with something bad it doesn't get much better. I guess you missed my point with Darron Thomas. Sharpen up a bit.
I think I go with Bolden. If he's the true #2, that is, expected to step up if Mett goes down, then I want him to get as much time under center -- with the 1s, not the 2s -- that he can. Of course, that's predicated on actually running the offense if Bolden's in the game. If the plan, up 42-3 midway through the 3d, is to hand the ball off three times then punt, well, Rivers or Randall could do that and, as you point out, get some game experience.
First, IMO Randall isn't even a choice because like I've been saying...he is ending up as a WR. That seems to be the opinion of the writers who have seen the guy play in practice and I have no reason to dispute that. The other one between Bolden and Rivers is a tougher one. There is a month before that game. Fall practice is supposed to firm up the depth chart, not just at QB but at WR, LBer, etc. IF Bolden doesn't have the playbook down, then there is 0 advantage in putting Bolden in. IF Rivers seems to be lost at the position, there is no reason to utilize him in that position either. My guess is that is what Les Miles says when he talks about "competing." He has pretty much said it would be tough for Bolden to become the starter. 2nd string is up in the air but my guess is they way they went after Bolden after he contacted them, looks like Bolden will be #2 because I don't think if they were happy with Rivers' development, LSU would have even gone after Bolden to begin with...why bother? This isn't a seniority deal. Just because you have been on the team longer doesn't guarantee you should be 2nd in the game at QB or even that you will ever be able to handle the QB position. That is what practice in spring and fall are for. That's why they pay Les Miles and Kragthorpe the big bucks.
Sooner or later, we'll have some reports coming out of camp. Let's give the guy a chance and wish him our best. Maybe a change is all that's needed to bring out the potential that Rivals saw in him coming out of high school. Rivals ranked him as the #2 QB coming out of high school. They had this to say about him... "Conclusion: A very hard-working, intelligent player that if given the opportunity to redshirt and learn the offensive system, could really flourish and develop into a defensive coordinators worst nightmare. Expect big things to happen for Bolden down the road, including one day getting the opportunity to play at the highest level." He was NOT given the opportunity to redshirt and he still might prove to be something special. Here's the Rival's link if you want to read their full report... http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrec...olden-75581;_ylt=AiVsCPGZbQn_zgNbBWFpkopDPZB4
I NEVER said I put him in that category. Have you noticed how many times you have used "dual threat"? Probably not because it isn't a stretch to know that you have 0 respect for "dual threat" QBs. If you dont' have a bias against them, then just call Bolden a bad QB. Now you might since I called you out on it but you haven't before have you. You keep talking the "no threat" deal which BTW is pretty lame but that is another issue. The bottom line is if you can bring up Darron Thomas, I can bring up the others. All are dual threat QBs and I notice you didn't want to comment on Thomas being rejected by LSU as a quality QB. Guess it was too much for you to acknowlege that you AGREED with Miles on that dual threat QB, huh? Your statement about Bolden being a bad QB is just YOUR opinion. So that statement has 0 credibility with me because quite frankly you haven't proven anything. Have you even watched the long highlights of the Penn State - Alabama game where the WRs looked like division 1-AA caliber? I didn't miss any point you have made because quite frankly you have made any...other than the OBVIOUS fact that you don't like dual threat QBs.
Exactly. It takes 1 rare dual threat QB to be successful at this level. He is not even close to Tebow or Newton. He is a benched Penn St. QB and you are excited that he is at LSU? Well I guess you are excited because LSU has no one behind Mett. That still is not an endorsement of Bolden. His stats are comparable to JJ's and that is the problem. I never said I did not like that kind of QB. LSU just doesn't have one that can be great. This experiment is a waste of time. End of story.
ROTFLMAO!! AMAZINGLY look at your own words. "It takes 1 rare dual threat QB to be successful at this level. He is not even close to Tebow or Newton." Who says that a dual threat QB can NOT be successful and STILL not be up to Tebow or Newton. According to you, if you are a dual threat QB and NOT a Tebow or Newton, you are NOT successful? Really????? As far as "benching goes, who the hell cares what Penn State did? If you are really saying that Penn State was such a magnificently coached team last season, then I guess they were just as well coached when Paterno REFUSED to give Bolden his release after the 2010 season. Everyone admits that occured. So which one is it? Was Penn State well coached when they benched him and NOT well coached when they refused to cut a supposed loser go just months earlier. BTW, don't know your opinon of Lemarcus Russell but you remember little Nicky BENCHING Russell in favor of a pathetic Marcus Randall for the Capital Bowl game right? You remember that Russell ended up the #1 pick right? Sooooo, are you saying that benching is the gospel of how good a QB is or maybe you are saying that little Nicky is a garbage coach? Which one is it? Bolden's stats are NOT compariable to Jefferson's because they can't be compared. They played on different teams with Penn State's receivers being pitiful. Once again, you are giving 0 facts or sustantiation, just wasting your time recyling your old trash statements about Darron Thomas, dual threat QBs in general, etc. But I must say you have added one new opinion. Apparently, if you are a dual threat QB and NOT Tebow or Newton caliber, you don't belong starting in college football. Here is your new motto! "Dual threat QBs - Heisman or bust!"
here's some footage of today's practice. QBs Bolden (#1) and J Randall (#15) are shown: 0:05 -- Bolden makes a throw, no crazy windup like JJ 0:20 -- J Randall makes a throw, then Bolden makes a throw, then J Randall makes a throw, then Bolden makes a throw 0:45 -- J Randall makes a throw, then Bolden makes a throw 1:50 -- Bolden makes a throw 2:45 -- Bolden makes a throw
I have no idea what your first 500 words were. You really need grammar lessons to make your rambling coherent. But I must give you credit for summing our day together nicely in a big bold and concise statement. I am glad you finally agree. I knew with a little patience you would come around. You should be proud of yourself little buddy.
