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I realize. The thing is if we look at where the truth would have originated, it's from those at the scene....people we should be able to trust....DEVGRU operators. And yet the two who have gone public don't give similar accounts and both have broken the SEAL Ethos which makes them, what exactly? And as I continue to point out, half a dozen others who where there can't give an account because 3 months after the raid, they all died in a helicopter crash in an over-stuffed Chinook (meaning they don't usually travel in such large numers) and their families don't believe the story. In fact, the families are the ones who have had direct communication and exposure to these government "officials" but have deemed them non-credible.

After an operation, operatives are interviewed one on one so that differing stories, indicating deception, can be ferreted out. And that's what we have in O'Neill and Bissonnette.

I have said long ago that America either needs or is given a face to hate. Whether it's Hitler, Mussolini, Gorbachev, Putin, Ayatollah, Noriega, bin laden, giving a face to evil helps to justify our actions. We blamed bin laden for 9/11. Terrorist action on American soil that took thousands of American lives. How satisfying or revengeful would it have felt to find out that the goat phucker died of liver failure in a Tora Bora cave? We hadn't seen a tape of him in months before the raid. Why not make sure we take full advantage of an opportunity to claim victory over terrorist #1 on the list?

 

But how do you know the raid even happened? Cause they told you so? It could ALL be a diversion. A moon landing.

 

This isn't science class. Immediately after mission, the team leader provides a detailed report. Each team member is immediately interviewed one on one for their accounting. That is how DEVGRU operates to avoid deception. It's not a court of law or a lab test. Different accounts do not equal the truth.

Like the Tillman's? The Sharrett's?

And some of them are now, without identifying themselves, saying that O'Neil's version is bullshit.

What burial? The dumping of a body into the ocean?

There is more than that. O'Neill stated that he double tapped the forehead. That is also not SOP. There is a reason they do what they do....one center mass shot to the chest, one to the forehead. Do you think two 5.62 hollow points to the frontal lobe were necessary or realistic? Just one would have destroyed the target. Bissonnette claimed to have been conversing with the lead man during the movement to engage. It's not done that way. They don't talk, they don't take their eyes off the front. It's been practiced so many times, it is all instinct. Leaving things to "in the moment" is how you get killed.

There is no insinuation. The old man could have died from liver disease, I didn't say that he was "killed". How long had it been between the last video and the raid? Do you know for a fact that he taped those videos as they were released or could he have done many at one time and they were released at later dates?

Absolutely identified by whom? Bush may not have had proof of his death at the time he left office. I'm sure he would have done far more (in a bad way) than Obama did to make himself look bad ass and full of credit. I'm not a Dubya fan so you can stop with the political implications.

You said the body was sunk to avoid a "shrine" to bin laden. What do you think that helicopter is? It's America pissing on Pakistani land saying "we were here and we can come get you". That is worth a lot of money and effort. It gives the American people a sense of "relief" that we got the bad guy. It helped sell a lot of books and movie scripts and stories. It helped continue funding to groups like DEVGRU. That helicopter.....as important as this mission was and with all the preparation and care of experts to make things go like clockwork....do you really believe it just had an oops and we had to leave it behind? Gold teams all have demolition experts who could and would have melted that helicopter if that had been the goal. We left way too much behind for it to be a mistake.

 

I believe the raid happened but there is no proof that the guy they offed was Obama bin Laden. Whether he was killed in bombing raid years earlier or died of kidney disease in a cave somewhere the fact it that for over 1o years he was the most wanted man on the face of the earth. There was a $50 Million reward for him. For $50 Million his own mother might have ratted him out. Surely in that amount of time somebody would have. IF he was alive. OBL was on dialysis and needed doctors and equipment for his treatments. Pretty hard to set up and maintain in some damp cave or even in some "secret" compound in Pakistan.

 

THIS post has not gotten the recognition it deserves either.

 

That's because Scotty would have beamed him up, not Kirk.