Rep. Walsh to UN: No Gun Control Treaties

I can see why she doesn't what to say Christmas tree and December 25th being Christmas day. Jesus was not born on Dec 25th. In fact Jesus was not born in the month of December at all. That is a made up birthday.

 

I do believe the Patriot Act is unconstitutional even though George Bush and Congress enacted it. Now I might agree with some that maybe it needed to be in place for a very short time after 9/11 but like we now have seen the more power this government gets the more it wants.

I do believe the procedures the TSA does is unconstitutional. It is in violation of the 4th Amendment. Also again Obama took the oath of office and is in violation of his oath because he has done nothing to fix the drug trafficking in Arizona. Americans have been killed on our side of the border.
I have seen signs posted warning Americans in Arizona.

I believe the health care bill will be ruled unconstitutional, If I come back here once that happens then what are you going to say? Is he then in violation of the Constitution.

Why? because I believe in the Constitution and Bill of Rights?
Because it was a 5-4 vote last time on the Second Amendment?
It seems like Guns outlawed in some cities are a warning sign to me.
I don't even own a gun either but I see government becoming bigger and more powerful and squashing our rights, liberty and freedoms.
I will point to the TSA and how Americans are now treated as criminals.

Maybe but maybe not, I don't watch tv news period.
I have never heard of a war on religion or Christians being persecuted in this country?
All there is, is propaganda in this country, liberal or conservative.
Some have sent me to good sources later finding out they weren't what they were suppose to me. Media Matters come to mind.

I believe in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights obviously. I have fb friends that root for Obama at every turn. They want us just like Europe, National Healthcare, the works. They also don't think we need the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Obama has talked about the safe guards the Constitution has that has gotten in his way...Hmmm

Yes we have to disagree. If things continue to deteriorate in Afghanistan.
If gas prices keep going higher, Foods prices have already risen, this will only fester and continues to get worse. So many are already hurting.
Obama will be blamed and lose the election and I would say some of it may not be his fault. In politics perception is reality. Just wait until his healthcare is declared unconstitutional IF it is. People are going to ask if they are better off then 4 years ago and the answer will clearly be NO.

This election is all about Obama and not the GOP, his approval rating overall I believe is already pretty low. All the GOP has to do is run several ads with Obama talking about the Stimulus was the right amount of money and that it would work, shovel ready jobs and then when it didn't work he joked about shovel ready jobs. Americans don't find this funny when they are hurting.

How about when he was going to have all of this transparency?
Or when George Bush was president he said the debt Washington DC was spending was a failure of leadership, that he would cut the deficit in half his first term? He did get the Simpson Bowles Commission together but then he did nothing.
There is plenty of information out on this president that isn't good. The question is will the other side be smart enough to run these clips of what Obama was going to do his first term and didn't.
I grant you it will be very interesting............

 

If the Patriot Act is unconstitutional then why has it not been repealed? Have law suits been filed by either party? Has the Supreme Court had to rule on the matter? I do not like many of the premises of the Patriot Act and agree with you that it should have been a temporary measure. I also agree that ANY entity, government or individuals, given too much power will use and abuse it.

I also share your concern for what the TSA is doing and I believe that we will have some resolution to this process now that we are starting to see our politicians experiencing the trouble with the measures the TSA is taking.

Please name one President who has controlled our borders with Mexico and stopped the flow of drugs or immigrants that have crossed that border.

If the Health Care Law is ruled unconstitutional then I will abide by and respect the courts ruling. I am no legal scholar so I'll not expose my ignorance by speculating on this one. That said, whether it be Obamacare or some other version, common sense reforms of our health care system are needed and most reasonable people can agree with this.

Please tell me when the Supreme Court ruling on the second amendment. We are a Republic and if local governments decide they do not want handguns inside the city limits they are free to do that. As diverse and expansive as our country is, I cannot assume to know what is right for people who live in a different part of the country. The same is true of groups in Wisconsin who sue towns in Texas for displaying a nativity scene at Christmas.....it's ridiculous. Taking your guns away is another GOP scare tactic that gets dragged out during election years. When was the last time there was actual legislation voted on pertaining to gun laws?

So do I. The only thing that I root for at every turn politically is the United States of America. I could care less if good ideas come from Obama or from a Republican. I would again challenge you to provide proof of times when Obama talked about the Constitution getting in the way of his agenda.

Regarding the election, at the end of the day the American people are going to look at Obama vs. ___________ and decide who they trust more to run the country for the next four years. You are right that the Republicans want to make this totally about Obama but it isn't....it's about America and doing what is right for the country as a whole. The American people are not stupid and if the Republicans cannot articulate a better position than, "We're going to go back to the way things were before Obama...." they will not win.

 

We have both already answered this question and it is in your very last sentence.

No, you are totally missing the point. Name another president that has had Americans killed and signs posted in Arizona telling Americans about dangers in their own country from foreign drug traffickers. There is clearly a difference here because situations change from president to president.

I have never said reform wasn't needed. I believe the American people deserve better than some partisan bill rushed through the Congress.
Another reason this bill is simply too vague, gives the health secretary a lot of power at their

June 29, 2010, 5-4 vote, Washington is recognized as federal land. It isn't a state.
I am a states rights guy on many issues though, I can agree with some of what you say however one should have a right to defend oneself from an intruder generally the police arrive to late. Taking guns away from law abiding citizens will leave guns in the hands of the bad guy. The article makes some good points but I disagree that not having a gun around would save that many lives, it could also cost lives of which they do not account for.
Supreme Court: 2nd Amendment Supersedes Local Gun-Control Laws - TIME

Again transformation and hope and change is vague.
He wants to force Congress...says the founders designed a system to get in his way.
Barack Obama Very Upset He Can't be a Supreme Dictator Because of our Constitution!!! - YouTube

Constitution is flawed in his view...
OBAMA SAYS CONSTITUTION DEEP FLAW CONTINUES TODAY - YouTube

You ever heard of its the Economy stupid?
Anyone would have beat George Bush or Republicans after 8 years, 2 wars.
It is always about the Incombant especially if things don't go so well.
I am not going to rehash this again. I already stated why I believe he will not win.We shall see...

 

This is your proof? These are the references that you honestly want me to consider as proof that Obama has disdain for the constitution? You want me to believe that because of the DC gun ban we are on a slippery slope to repealing the second amendment altogether? Come on, man....your evidence doesn't hold water. Two YouTube videos: one that is clearly chopped so you have no frame of reference for the conversation and the other an interview in which the President only says that he can't just force feed his policies, that there has to be a majority of agreement between the respective legislative bodies to implement his agenda which he obviously does not have right now.

 

I honestly don't think you would accept anything, end of story.
It is what it is, you are just making excuses now.

 

I must have read it wrong, you win!

That never was my intention, was talking about would happen in another term.

That is exactly my point, that was past tense for one thing. We were talking about this happening in a second term but I see all of these instances as to just where we could be heading.

I am not going to repeat these again. I have already listed them the last few posts with NC Tiger.

Exactly, he doesn't care about the procedures or the rule of law.
He and his attorney general have been subpoenaed and they have failed to show up for hearings. Oil ban, Fast and Furious, Georgia hearing.
This president wants to force Congress and the Constitution to see things as he sees fit. I have provided all the proof on this page of him saying these exact things.

Disagree, we haven't had the crisis on the border until the last 3 years or so.
Again I am not going to rewrite every instance I have already done so to NC Tiger. Its 2 against 1 here.

Again, it is the 2 you tube links I provided to NC Tiger above.

I will watch and see...

Where? MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC? Yes if you are Democrat or Republican.

It isn't about the past it is about the future. There are some that want to do away with the Constitution and the Bill of Rights for the third time.
No yet, yes, we shall see...

The Supreme Court can change the Constitution by the way they rule or interpret it. An example would be the health care bill. The commerce clause could be made to say about anything you want it too.

Because I don't trust government or politicians from either party.
I see all the power they have gained since 9/11, I see the Nanny state.
I see the overreach of power, TSA, Parents being billed for taking away kids lunches, etc. Many reasons....

It is conversations I have had on FB with Liberals that are behind Obama.
They are fully behind him and his agenda and it starts with National Healthcare. They say we don't need the Constitution or Bill of Rights.
I believe Obama feels the same way because of the many comments he has made. I hope you guys are right about this stuff but I hear different things not from tv news or GOP. I talk to people on fb and read various articles.

I need a break I am responding to 2 of you over and over, I am tired!
You guys are only responding to one.

 

I'm sorry that you think that but your evidence of such an outlandish accusation is sparse at best. Like I said in an earlier post in this thread, you are drinking the rights kool aid. I am not just defending Obama here because there are things that he honestly deserves criticism for IMO, like Keystone pipeline and maybe certain parts of his health care plan or his refusal to be more aggressive in pursuing natural gas as an alternative, but the things you are accusing him of are so far fetched that they are virtually indefensible. I mean, if the best thing you can come up with to prove your point is a YouTube video then it is doubtful that you have a legitimate point at all.