Rep. Walsh to UN: No Gun Control Treaties

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  1. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    Rep. Walsh to UN: No Gun Control Treaties - Gun Owners Of America

    Representative Joe Walsh (R-IL) has drafted a bill that would block U.S. funding to the United Nations if it seeks to implement gun control measures affecting U.S. citizens.

    Despite victories by gun owners in elections and legislative battles throughout the country in recent years, on the international front gun control is moving quickly.

    Most significantly, in 2012 the UN plans to release a final draft of the Arms Trade Treaty—a treaty that will have severe consequences for American gun owners.

    Meetings are held behind close doors, but from information gathered by GOA we believe that the ATT will, at the very least, require gun owner registration and microstamping of ammunition.

    The ATT will define manufacturing so broadly that any gun owner who adds an accessory such as a scope or changes a stock on a firearm would be required to obtain a manufacturing license.

    It would also likely include a ban on many semi-automatic firearms (like the Clinton gun ban) and demand the mandatory destruction of surplus ammo and confiscated firearms.

    President Obama, not surprisingly, welcomes the treaty. He knows that he is unlikely to get such radical proposals through the Congress, so the UN provides him a backdoor way to enact gun control.

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is also on board and began pushing for the treaty as soon as she was confirmed in her position. “The United States is prepared to work hard for a strong international standard in this area,” she said.

    Since treaties must be ratified by the Senate, GOA is working continually to buck up weak-kneed Senators who might be pressured to ratify the treaty.

    But the House, which controls the nations’ purse strings, can also play a role in killing the ATT (or any other anti-gun treaty, for that matter).

    Rep. Joe Walsh’s legislation will cut U.S. funding to the UN if the international body imposes any restrictions on Americans’ gun rights.

    This is a huge deal, because without the contributions of the United States, the UN would be crippled financially. According to government reports, U.S. taxpayers foot the bill for 22 percent of the UN’s regular budget and 27 percent of its “peacekeeping” budget.

    American gun owners, in other words, are funding the organization that wants to do away with the Second Amendment!

    Rep. Walsh is putting the UN on notice: back off our gun rights.

    Entitled the “The Second Amendment Protection Act of 2011,” Rep. Walsh is now seeking original cosponsors to join him in the House. He plans to introduce the bill within the next week.

    Rep. Walsh highlights for his House colleagues the necessity of his proposal, noting that:

    It is the constitutional power of Congress to determine United States foreign policy through the ratification of international treaties;
    U.S. Presidents, by signing on to treaties, have opened the door for international organizations to unilaterally regulate the lives of citizens of the United States;

    International and transnational organizations force their rules on people of the United States through conventions, multilateral agreements, and nonratified treaties, such as agreements that affect the private ownership of firearms by law-abiding citizens; and

    United States sovereignty is risked by domestic legal applicability of international treaties and executive agreements that have not been voted on and congressionally adopted through formal processes.

    Let’s help Rep. Joe Walsh get as many cosponsors as possible. In the process, we’ll find out how many Representatives are willing to stand up to the behemoth United Nations in defense of the Second Amendment.
     
  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    What nonsense. No other country can make legislation that a US citizen has to respect.

    The Arms Treaty addresses international weapons trafficking and does not affect the gun right of US citizens one bit.

    This is a non-story.
     
  3. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    No. It is an outright scare tactic lie.
     
  4. Rwilliams

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    Chootem Liz
     
  5. Rwilliams

    Rwilliams Veteran Member

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    No really, as long as the second amendment isn't overturned by the supreme court, no law can be made taking away the right to have a gun or ammunition for it. Am I wrong here?
     
  6. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    I think there's debate over the 2nd amendment's original meaning/intention and how we interpret it today.
     
  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Laws already exist that prevent certain people from owning guns.

    Felons, fugitives from justice, those judged to be mentally defective or committed, illegal aliens, dishonorably discharged members of the armed services, those who renouce citizenship, those under court retraining orders, and those convicted of misdemeanor crimes of domestic violence.
     
  8. locoguano

    locoguano Founding Member

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    Not true. Article 6 Section 2 makes all citizens beholden to treaties ratified by the Federal government, unless it comes into conflict with the Constitution. So no, an international gun bad of any kind in a treaty cannot trump the Second Amendment.
     
  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    What is not true?

    Which is exactly what I said. US citizens gun rights are unaffected by UN treaties regarding international arms trafficking. It has no affect whatsoever on domestic gun ownership, only illegal gun-running.
     
  10. locoguano

    locoguano Founding Member

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    This part. If we agree to it in a treaty, its as good as law, except in the case of a conflict.
     

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