The people who lost their lives 15 years ago today in Oklahoma City. The Terrorist victims who get forgotten. :usaflagwa:usaflagwa:usaflagwa
And the victims, innocent children who lost their lives at Waco. I will point out that if the Clinton Administration would have done the right thing with the Waco tragedy Oklahoma City wouldn't have happened. I will now state the obvious, in no way do I support violence from either side and I do hope Timothy Mc Veigh burns in hell for what he did but the government is responsible for the actions at Waco as well.
mcveigh was a wacko that would have found any other reason. i am not saying i agree with decisions made at waco, but to blame this on clinton is twisted. the govt is responsible for what happened in waco. the govt is not responsible for the way a sick individual handled his anger over it. and thank you lasalle for posting that. i was on the road yesterday. the images in my mind, feeling the shock of the blast, remembering how i felt i saw what happened as the news helicopter came around the back side of the building the front, and showed for the first time the magnitude of the devastation.... it all still hits very hard.
Maybe McVeigh would have, who is to know the truth? The truth is we will never know what if all we know is what is. Excuse me? As Red said about Bush about 9-11 being on his watch the same can be said about Waco on Clinton's watch. Clinton was the president, the buck stopped with him. Bottom line for me is that I don't trust the government or its media to tell us the truth. We probably still don't know what the truth actually is from all of these events, throw in JFK assassination if you want? Not talking politics here at all, I don't trust the government from either side. Same goes for Bush 41 and Ruby Ridge!
the govt mishandled waco, the govt mishandled ruby ridge. how a sick individual reacted is not the fault of the govt. the blame lies with the individual. it is no different than some people have tried to say it was because mcveigh had been in the army. disgruntled, all that, and somehow the military shared the fault. bs. he may have been disgruntled, but if he couldnt handle the army, that is his problem. not the military's and his actions with okc have nothing to do with he was in the army. mcveigh was a sick twisted individual, and to place the blame anywhere but on his shoulders or nichols shoulders is offering them excuses.
I remember listening to Rush the day after Oklahoma City. This was when, before McVeigh and the other guy had been identified as the perps, everyone thought the culprits were foreign terrorists. The anger and quiet resolve in his voice when he said (I'm close to a direct quote here) "its time for all Americans to put our differences aside and rally behind our President, William Jefferson Clinton, and put an end to terrorism once and for all." A week later, we knew who done it, and Clinton came out and blamed talk radio. Clinton's fault? No, but it certainly wasn't Rush's fault either. RIP to the victims in OC. You are not forgotten.
OKC and Waco were no more Clinton's fault than 9/11 was Bush's fault. There probably was information out there, but it seems like every big attack on the United States (waco excluded of course because it wasn't an attack) there was information that could have prevented it, even going back to Pearl Harbor. Bush did alot of crummy stuff in my opinion but he was NOT to blame for 9/11.
This is absolutely right. There is no reason or excuse for what that evil man and his cohort did 15 years ago. I can still see the photo of that firefighter holding that dead baby girl in his arms--some images will never fade.
I agree, I didn't say anything to the contrary did I? Again I don't know where all this is coming from. The only thing that I said is if Waco wasn't mishandled and end in the tragedy the Oklahoma City bombing wouldn't have happened. Seemed rather obvious to me but that is just me. Edit: What makes me sad are the people and babies who lost their lives in all these tragedies, Waco, Ruby Ridge, OKC, etc. Everyone seems to forget about all the other innocent victims and babies, that really makes me very sad.
