this was one of those plays where i thought however it was called on the field would stand b/c there wouldn't be enough evidence to overturn. guess i was wrong.
I thought they made the right call on that one. On the holding call, even if he hadn't been held he could not have made the play. Sometimes the offense wins, they did on that play. What I'm mad at the refs for is not starting the clock before JJ spiked it. I think they would have but when they saw the spike coming they said, "Hold the clock a minute, I have to see this." :lol:
I have to objectively disagree with you. His knee was clearly down before the ball started to come loose. Clearly. Replay it in slow mo. I did. He was down. Save ref bashing for when they actually get it wrong. This isn't one of those times. And before some of you even start, don't waste your time bashing me for calling it like it is. I wish it had been a fumble as much as any true LSU fan but I'm not going to say it was when it wasn't.
I thought it was a pretty close play. I don't even care about it because it really had nothing to do with why LSU lost (poor play, poorer coaching). It's just the idea that plays like that typically haven't been reversed this year with SEC review officials. Danielson on CBS looked at it many times and thought he was down at first from the first still shot they showed, but then after seeing a number of other shots, he stated that he wasn't sure and that he'd have to 2nd guess his first call. And we all know that he is thorough and can analyze things to death. So it wasn't that clear. A few live shots looked like it might have been a fumble, the still shot and maybe one other did not look like one. It wasn't really irrefutable (leaving no doubt). I thought it was close either way. The first shot looked down to me, the others didn't because Jones had his hand in there before he was down and it wasn't that clear when the ball was coming out. I wouldn't have blamed the refs on the field for calling it either way. I probably would have called it down. But I don't like that they reversed something that hasn't typically been reversed this year. And when you add the Bama call on top of it (and the refusal to reverse it), it can get frustrating.
I thought this was how it is supposed to work. The call on the field stands unless there's enough evidence to overturn it. Seemed too close to me given that looked differently from different angles. Interestingly, there was a similar play today between Baltimore and Indianapolis. Toward the end of the game, the Colts punted. The Ravens PR fielded the punt, and as he was being tackled, he tried to lateral to a teammate, and the Colts recovered. The play on the field was ruled a fumble, and it was similar to yesterday's play in that it wasn't clear if the knee hit the ground before the ball was loose. Like yesterday's play, it was close, and different angles could lead to different conclusions. Ultimately, the play on the field was confirmed, as there was not enough to overturn. This was the correct call, as it should have been yesterday... We didn't lose on this play alone. It is interesting though the point in the game when it happened. We had just gone up 17-9 and just missed on the on-sides kick. Then it looked like we recovered a fumble. Ole Miss went on to score a TD, although didn't get the 2-point conversion. Either way, whether we had successfully recovered the on-sides kick or the fumble, Ole Miss likely does not score; we had the momentum and could have potentially gone up 23-9. A two touchdown at halftime is helluva lot better than a two point lead. Oh well... :geauxtige
I won't be available but would love to be in Atlanta for the SEC Championship game. It would be great to make bright neon shirts slamming the refs this year for cheating and/or being incompetent. Wouldn't it be great to have a few thousand people outside the Georgia Dome expressing their freedom of speech to expose this crap? I don't know what it will take for the SEC to take this issue seriously. I'm sure they'll do what they've done the last few years by simply ignoring the problem, fining the coaches for comments, and discounting complaints as whining. We need to force their hand or the BS will continue!