Radical Islamic Terrorist attack on gay nightclub in Orlando (50 killed, 53 injured)

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  1. sunnyjim

    sunnyjim Founding Member

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    You reveal that your argument is about your ideology, not about actually addressing mass shootings.

    Opinion. And an illogical one. Traffic lights do not stop traffic accidents, should we just get rid of them? DWI laws do not stop all drunk drivers. But what is wrong with stopping as many as possible? Not a damn thing.

    Yet you oppose efforts to keep these people away from guns?

    So Donald, you would abrogate the first amendment in your effort to sanctify the second? Do you respect the Constitution or not? Shame0911 has promised to kill a presidential nominee if elected. Should he be on a Secret Service list somewhere? Or does Freedom of Speech allow him to make inflammatory statements?

    But in fact, I agree. The first amendment is a broad right and subject to interpretation to preserve the best interests of the USA. Muslims or anybody else whose speech indicates a proclivity to terrorism should be subject to investigations and legal restrictions. The second amendment is also broad and also subject to interpretation to preserve the best interests of the United States. Better background checks is one of them, even if it involves a reasonable wait period.

    While I understand where you are coming from, this is exactly what you have previously opposed as government overreach. Doctors are already required to report anyone they suspect is dangerous, but millions of citizens with minor emotional issues or depression are not dangerous. Most spouses and family members are not qualified to make a call and many have personal agendas that could swamp the legal system with false reports. And answer me this. What good would this do if no time is permitted to allow officials to vet and disapprove gun purchases to such people? Does the Constitution protect you from inconvenience? Why, no.

    No American's rights can be restricted due to the actions of others. This is fundamental to our Constitution. But all American's rights can be restricted in the best interests of the nation. This happens quite frequently. Witness the TSA, overseas travel restrictions, wartime rationing, and tons of laws that prevent the avarice of one citizen from victimizing another.

    No. But gun laws can be amended to reduce terrorism and domestic crime, or to increase public safety in the best interests of the nation.
     
  2. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    Because they cant, it doesn't fit their narrative, it does boost ours though.
     
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  3. el005639

    el005639 Founding Member

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    To me it is this simple, I do not trust the idiots in Washington who have an underlying agenda to ban private gun ownership anywhere near the second amendment.
     
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  5. Jmg

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    Black people
     
  6. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    Always love your candor
     
  7. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    Bad, bad Leroy Brown

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  8. COTiger

    COTiger 2010 Bowl Pick 'Em Champ

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    And his political correctness. :D
     
  9. el005639

    el005639 Founding Member

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  10. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    Exactly, it doesn't fit so they deflect and do nothing until shit like this happens so they can spin up the anti gun crowd and catch fish like sunny boy and dumbo rue
     

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