Quote from Dupre

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  1. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Harris has to be willing to throw the underneath ball though. You want to spread the receivers out to minimize the chance someone breaks off a route early, so I understand having Dural streak, but Harris has to recognize the underneath route. Maybe his key is the safety. You've noticed on all those deep routes that were missed there was single coverage, so his read is to see what the safety is doing presnap. If he sees the safety creeping or knows the safety has to take such and such receiver and Dural has a one on one match up his 1st read is the deep route. So again he has to look off receivers but it has to be done quick. At this point this year, I think it's more on Harris but it's up to the coaches to have him ready to make those decisions and make them quick.
     
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    asignupe99 Founding Member

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    If only it were that simple. Much more nuanced than that. Come with that no-thinking shit in two weeks and Hargreaves and Tabor will be jumping routes left and right.

    Thing is, the deep(er) ball SHOULD be open all day with 9 guys in the box. And frankly sometimes you have to give your athletes a chance to make a play. Sometimes you throw a guy open by throwing to the spot you expect him to be. Harris hasn't mastered that touch yet, and the one throw he made that was on the money, Dural had pulled up because he didn't know where the ball was. He even had a step on the guy and just needed to located the ball and keep running.

    Slants and other short inside throws are much more difficult with a loaded box. Case in point, a couple of short throws got knocked down because the line didn't always rush. EMU played some zone blitzing and did it fairly well. Double moves, corner routes, seams...deeper routes should be there all day. It's not so much that they are low percentage. With a loaded box those aren't low percentage throws. They are just mostly poorly executed by QB and especially by WRs.
     
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  3. mctiger

    mctiger RIP, and thanks for the music Staff Member

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    Against Auburn the complaint was that all he called were short passes. He mixed it up better against Syracuse, and Harris connected on two passes in the 10-15 yard range in the opening drive against EMU. After that, yes, I agree, they threw the deep ball much too often. I already said that in a previous thread. I also agree with your comment about helping a QB have success. In the case of this particular QB, I think Cam/Miles are still experimenting and trying to get a feel for exactly what Harris does best. His mechanics are still a work in progress; I cringe every time a receiver has to leave his feet for a high fastball, and that's happened a lot.
     
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  4. TigerSnarl

    TigerSnarl Air Conditioned Gypsy

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    I am too lazy to listen to any long interview to get context of Dupree's comments.

    But I have often wondered how Les manages to recruit top shelf receivers. Would love to hear the questions about the offense that a WR recruit asks and how Les responds.
     
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  5. TwistedTiger

    TwistedTiger Founding Member

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    He's been better doing a lot of small things this season, just needs to do a better job of setting his feet before he throws. I really think he's over thinking things. Also the AU game wasn't just short passes, almost every one was behind the line of scrimmage. There needs to be some variety and against 8-9 man fronts you'd like to get it behind the safeties and LBs. I wasn't disappointed in the play calling much against AU, I didn't like so many passes behind the line.
     
  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Our first offensive play of the game was a play-action pass out of the I-formation.
     
  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    A quarterback must be smart. If there are 9 men in the box, your best receivers will be single covered. Time to burn the defense, Dr. Harris.
     
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    TwistedTiger Founding Member

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    And it was an excellent play call and I've said so before. Wonder why they never threw it again.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    It only works when it is a surprise.
     
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    TwistedTiger Founding Member

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    Well I think it shocked the shit out of the entire football world. Believe me, any time LSU throws to the TE it's a surprise.
     

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