Question for you Purple and Gold folks about A&M

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  1. Gulffella

    Gulffella Founding Member

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    A poster from A&M posted something about LSU not paying them what was due after I'm guessing cancelling a series with them. I really don't know what happened but it did sound like there's still some animosity on there part with you guys.

    Is the past Rivalry still vivid enough in the majority of fans at LSU that a rivalry with them will be picked right back up.. I don't mean the rivalry as in the one that exists in all west teams, but more natural/historic Rivalry? IE Michigan/OSU .. Alabama/Auburn kinda deal.

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. lsu_mackey

    lsu_mackey Agent Purple

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    Their fans will see it more as a rivalry than our fans will, in my opinion.

    In the words of Mark Zuckerburg: they "can sit on our shoulders and call themselves tall" but it will be years before I, personally, see them as a valid addition to the SEC. Congrats, A&M, you're the SEC's money cow but you can revel in that moral victory mud pond all you want...hell, you should be used to it, your football stadium pretty much is a cow field already.
     
  3. TexasTigers

    TexasTigers Are You With Me ?

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    Yes A&M fans tend to latch onto that but it is wrought with misconception and frankly silliness.
    But like the poster above stated it allows them to sit on our shoulders and call themselves tall.
    I have also changed my perception of A&M coming to the SEC I have somewhat embraced it. However I do not look forward to the insults of our state and its people the A&M fan seems to love to lob our way.
    the Corn dog thing I just dont understand. Our rivals think it bothers us, it really doesnt but they seem to like it and makes them happy. So like a kid who believes in Santa you kind of pat them on the head and say "Awwww. thats cute"

    But (I didnt write this) here is the actual story about the series/.

    The story of why the series ended can really be summed up in one word: money.

    “I inherited a 10-year contract with LSU and Texas A&M, which is unusual. You don’t see that a lot,” explained Joe Dean Sr., LSU athletic director from 1987-2001, in a recent interview.

    “What happened, and I was responsible for it to be honest, was we went from seven league games to eight league games,” Dean continued. “And it put a strain on us when we had to go there (to College Station). We needed that extra home game for financial reasons.”

    Dean went on to explain that LSU, which cut the contract off with two years remaining, had to pay $100,000 to do so. He also lamented the death of the A&M rivalry, but added that his was a common predicament in the early-nineties with conferences changing and taking shape.

    Another example, Dean explained, was with Texas. According to the LSU basketball All-Century team member, he had the Longhorns on the hook for a home-and-home, but UT backed out, citing financial reasons, when it picked up an extra league game.

    So anyway the facts tend to be ignored to promote their disdain. Most of us just again kind of say "o.k" and let them believe what they want to believe.

    as for the rivalry. No offense to Arkansas but yes within 10 years A&M will be our biggest rival. It just seems natural. Sadly A&M (and many on our side) will allow it to be reduced to vitriol of A&M fans calling our people names and promoting how A&M is a much better Academic school and Louisiana, LSU and its people are beneath them. Followed by stories of LSU fans throwing bags of piss (always my favorite), us beating up their grandmothers, and raping their cattle. again like the above a fabrication but one that will feed their rivalry....
    I experienced this during our rivalry back when i as in school. I expect it to return.
    We in turn will really begin to hate the condescending attitude A&M treats us with as lets face it we (Louisianians) get really bothered by people of other states who look down on us, ridicule and we feel "Dont respect our culture" and then it just deteriorates from there.
    We are different no question. Like many the term "tiger bait" is so offensive to them that this will cause delusions of marauding hoards of LSU fans burning College Station and taking dumps on their war memorials... Again all fabrications but like the game we played as a kid will be taken as truth in short order.
    With that I have mad respect for A&M's military tradition and welcome them to the SEC. I hope the past doesn't repeat itself

    Sadly this is what is disappointing to me. It is the condescending approach A&M takes towards the base of other institutions...

    With that much longer post than I anticipated. They will go to tigerdroppings and there will be enough idiots there to actually confirm their opinions and only worsen their misguided opinions of the fine people of our state our University and its people. See they will never understand LSU represents the entire state. We are cheering for our state. LSU represents our state. We are T-Shirt fans to them. They hate that and it confuses them. Its a foreign concept. Only adding to it.
    Anyway enough.
    Sorry... Had to get that off my chest.
     
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  4. TexasTigers

    TexasTigers Are You With Me ?

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    One last thing on the Lawsuit I found. Again I stole this from another message board who stole it from TigerRag. So I fact checked but this is the reason A&M believes "We ripped them off" again quite a stretch but still what they believe and again we simply say. O.K.

    The $400,000 number comes from another clause in the contract, that said (words to the effect of) "unless provided a suitablereplacement in the event of an early termination, A&M get's the sum of $400,000 in liquidated damages"

    So, when LSU opted for another home game and cut the A&M series short, I believe it was Northwestern State (or a school like it) that LSU offered to A&M as a replacement.

    The Aggies said "this isn't a suitable replacement" and LSU said "yes it is" and left A&M with only one option: a lawsuit.

    EXCEPT that A&M is a State Entity (Texas) and LSU is a State Entity (Louisiana), so the lawsuit would be Texas vs. Louisiana ... and the Supreme Court of the United States is the place where lawsuits between two states originate.

    A&M realized it wasn't worth a Supreme Court case, so the matter never proceeded. In reality, it was sloppy lawyering on A&M's part for allowing such a vague term on such an important part of a contract

    Of course the A&M administration has a different view
     
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  5. Gulffella

    Gulffella Founding Member

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    Wow .. that certainly shed some light on that particular situation and a bit of the "old days" Texas Tigers thanks for the info..correct me if I'm wrong would I be correct in assuming they are a feisty uppity version of Vanderbilt?


    Again thanks for the post it does clear things up and what the possibilities are for the future in the Division.
     
  6. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    How long you been holding that in, Texas?
     
  7. lsu_mackey

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    Epic post is epic.
     
  8. kluke

    kluke Founding Member

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    Thanks for the info Texas. Of course the fact that the Aggies seem to never let stuff go and they just let things build and fester makes this ant hill a volcano waiting to explode to them.

    Great post
     
  9. lsu_mackey

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    it's not nice to make fun of their male cheerleaders...
     
  10. LSUDad

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    They had a good chance in the Cotton Bowl......:D
     

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