Quarterback Change?????

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  1. Crip*TEAM KATT

    Crip*TEAM KATT As Wild As We Wanna Be

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    Has taken all of those snaps HELPED ANY????
     
  2. Attack Tiger

    Attack Tiger Reformed Sunshine Pumper

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    No, but you know what they say about hindsight...

    It was the right call at the time.
     
  3. lsu_dane

    lsu_dane Founding Member

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    Didn't he play the last 4 minutes of the game? (Couldn't watch it, don't know for sure)

    It's still the right call. Lee needs snaps. Let him get it all out of his system, and then he can go into the offseason and work on improving his game.

    Honestly I don't expect QB's to make hugh strides during the season. Lee's goal will be to study the defenses and learn how to read different formations and call the right play from that.

    9 games worth of playing does not mean that he should have turned into an all-star.

    Like I pointed out before, he stats actually went up from Florida through to Georgia.

    I think Les Miles put it best when he said in regards to Lee, "You hope the light switch comes on and stays on, instead of flickering on and off."

    Lee has his light switch on moments and light switch off moments.

    My biggest concern is whether he'll be able to come back from this. I couldn't imagine being in a stadium where it sounds like 90,000+ were booing me.

    Sometimes I think people act as if Lee killed their first born child, while he's done nothing but take one for the team.
     
  4. CajunPunk

    CajunPunk TF's Resident Realist

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    For one, I believe you are quoting my comments after the UGA loss, and I've chilled out somewhat since then. Anyway...

    Lee threw 4 INTs with a pick 6 and went 13-34. Abysmal. The only way JJ could do worse is to throw 5 INTs and 2 pick 6's. That would be pretty hard.

    Because coaches believed he didn't look as good in practice, Rohan Davey rode the bench in favor of keeping the inept Booty on the field. Booty was replaced in the Peach Bowl because of his usual terrible play, and the rest is LSU history.

    I'm not expecting JJ to throw 5 TDs a game, but at least he can run and throw. He can give the defense something else to worry about.

    If this is a building year, we weren't as deep as we thought. After this season, 4-5 major defensive linemen (Jackson, Johnson, Pittman, Jean-Francois, Favorite, etc) are leaving, Beckwith is gone and Taylor is leaving. On offense, Helms, Byrd, Q. Johnson, H. Johnson, and David are all leaving as well.

    Won't next year be a rebuilding year too?

    No one said we'd go to the NC again. We all knew LSU would lose a couple, but it's HOW they are losing. There are no marque wins this season, and LSU has been blown out twice with 50+ points being hung on them both times. The Bama loss was far more bearable, despite the pitiful QB play. We actually showed fire and had a chance to win.
     
  5. Attack Tiger

    Attack Tiger Reformed Sunshine Pumper

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    Who's to say he wouldn't? That's a tricky defense that FORCED Lee into half of his picks.

    The positions you listed are not the positions in question on this thread.

    And next year SHOULD be better because the positions you listed are rotated pretty regularly and nobody is knocking the backups on their play. Last year we all pretty much KNEW we'd be in trouble at LB, corner, and QB, because the backups were letting themselves get beat (cough, cough, EUGENE...cough, cough). That's not particularly happening this year. In some cases, the backups almost look better (Drake Nevis, Jacob Cutrera, PP) than the starters!

    No, I'm excited about next year. Our depth, which you questioned in a round-about way, is what's allowing us to finish strong in some games after we fall behind or hang too close (Auburn, Mississippi State, South Carolina, Tulane). If we get ANY better QB play next year and continue the agressive defensive style we've seen in the last two games, I say we win the SEC.
     
  6. CajunPunk

    CajunPunk TF's Resident Realist

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    No one forces Lee to eyeball one guy on every pass play of every game. Even Tulane forced him into a pick six, and that says a lot.

    I think we all expected inconsistent QB play and were unsure of the DBs. I think it's more of a poor scheme than it is the players. And yes, Eugene has played well and has made mistakes. Had we a half-way decent QB, would could be 8-1.

    The LBs have surprised me in how poor they are playing, especially Beckwith. I don't think many of us thought the LB crew would slump so badly.
     
  7. lsu_dane

    lsu_dane Founding Member

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    Same could be said for the defense.
     
  8. CajunPunk

    CajunPunk TF's Resident Realist

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    True, but I think the QB play has been deflating. Against UGA, LSU held them several times, but the offense got too pass happy and either did nothing or turned the ball over (later part of first half killed the momentum). I'm not giving them a free pass, but I think the QB impacts the defense more than the defense impacts the offense.

    We would have lost to Florida regardless, but I honestly think we could have beaten UGA and Bama.
     
  9. lsu_dane

    lsu_dane Founding Member

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    I completely agree that they got too pass happy. And for goodness sake, can we not take the slant out of offense for this season already?
     
  10. Attack Tiger

    Attack Tiger Reformed Sunshine Pumper

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    The slant is one our main weapons under CGC, and the only way we're going to get it right is to do it.

    Cajun - the Offense and the Defense feed off of and rely on each other. It's a two-way street. If we weren't behind early (See Florida) or backed up into our own endzone, we can run our gameplan like we want.

    Regarding our "pass-happiness", we have a great OC who runs a spread offense. Take the good with the bad. Just because he don't have the perfect personell to run it doesn't mean we should completely scrap the system that we've had for over a year and has put us near the top of the SEC in offense for the past two years. I can't remember the last time LSU's offense was THIS good....even when they're playing bad.
     

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