Quote from Les from last night. "My thinking might well change, but we might look at the young freshman," Miles said Sunday night in his office with reporters. "I think that's probably sound thought, something that we need to do. He's healthier." Looks like this may really happen.
If he is considering doing it this weekend would be the weekend to get him in. Against Tulane would be a good "walk through" for him to get ready for Bama!
How is my disagreement with your post in anyway personal? Is every post that contradicts yours personal? If your first line was a joke, you are the only one who got it. I merely asked you to restrict your comments to what I have actually said. You choose to take that personally. Patently ridiculous. Everyone else has criticized him extensively already. You would prefer a more detailed breakdown from me? There are not plenty of examples of this already? Acknowledging his poor play and partial blame is not sufficient for you ? Ok... Criticize JR? No, I re-illustrated the common complaints about JR from this very board a mere two years ago(not his first year), and for that matter the same ones against Matt Flynn from last year. It is common knowledge that the backup QB is the most popular player and I believe much of what I have seen about JR, Flynn, and Lee is exactly that. For what it's worth, I defended Russell and Flynn with equal vigor. Look it up. Understatement of the year. I proved with stats that the defense did not do that. Watched the game again already? I have and Lee did not make 7 straight bad passes as you imply. Simply not true. If I have to post a breakdown of each play in that stretch to disprove your assertion, I will gladly. I have not spun anything. I said he had a poor game and listed the offensive stats for the team, with several illustrating that Lee has helped put this offense solidly at 2-3 in the SEC. There is no spin to those numbers. Undeniable, and I didn't say different. Who are you arguing with? Most? Really? The numbers do not support you. Passing yards - 309 Rushing yards - 188 Passing TDs - 3 Rushing TDs - 2 And you chose to completely ignore the posted statistics of our offense and our defense as they stack up in the sec. We are firmly at #2 in total offense and firmly at 9th in total defense. Your critique of our defense lasted a whole two sentences, while ignoring every stat that showed them as sub par in their performance for the year. Apparently you feel the lion's share of the blame belongs on the QB of the 2nd rated offense, while I believe it lies(primarily) with the 9th rated defense. We will just have to disagree.
You can disagree with everything, I say, I dont take it personal. I did ask for a more detailed breakdown from you that was in my first post to you, but I see you cant bring yourself to do it. I wonder why 7 straight imcompletions, I didnt say bad passes. Lee has helped put this offense solidly at 2-3 in the SEC, you are right, right behind Georgia and Florida the teams we lost to. Here are his stats the last 3 games, two of which we have lost. 56-92 60% 685 yds, 5 TD, 6 Int.
Here's the Advocate article about that: http://www.2theadvocate.com/sports/lsu/featured/33345739.html
You tell me I chose to get personal and fail to point out how I did that. Now you claim you don't take things personal, while you did that very thing by telling me I got personal. That is pretzel logic and I have seen you do that repeatedly to many posters that dare to disagree with you. However, I will not let your cavalier statement go unchallenged. The thread clearly speaks for itself. Assume what you will. And I answered that the details have been illustrated quite well. Some accurate, and some not so much. I use his stats to defend him and also the stats of the defense to illustrate who I feel is most complicit in our failures, even in victory. You choose to completely ignore the defensive stats, which are undeniable. Completely... I will say it again for ridiculous emphasis. Completely... Don't try to back peddle and parse words. Correct, you did say 7 straight incompletions, but you only leveled blame at Lee, and nobody else. That is incorrect and I pointed out that I can easily disprove that. No, actually our total offense is second only to Georgia. We are in front of Florida, which is why the stat I listed showed them at #2 in total offense. Passing offense is #3 behind Georgia and South Carolina. Rushing offense is #3 behind Alabama and Florida. You post 3 games while I posted defensive stats for all games. Would you like me to reduce my parameters for the defense to only the last three games? They will look even worse. But it won't matter, because you will completely ignore the defense as you have in each post. Lee's stats in those three games are sub par only because of the interceptions. His completion %, yards/pass, and TDs are completely acceptable. And that is all you got. The defense is sub par in EVERY category. And that is what I got.
It was my wife and I's 6 month wedding anniv. this weekend, so I got a great present given by the tigers. :rolleye33: Anyway, here's Lee's stats for the game and year. For the year: 98 of 169. 58% comp. 1328 total passing yards. Average of 7.9 yards per attempt. 11 TD's, 9 INT's. 134.83 QB rating. 189.7 passing yards per game. His passing average has went up to 24 passes per game. For the Georgia game his stats: 14 of 28. 50% comp. 287 yards. 10.3 yards per attempt. 3 TD's, 3 INT's. 150.03 QB Rating. 28 passes in the game. The Rub: Stat wise he had a better game than South Carolina. More yards passing, more yards per attempt. He had no passing TD's at USCe but 1 INT. To compare, he had a 114.91 QB Rating for USCe, while he had a 150.03 for Georgia. The Truth: I'm not saying that Lee's composite play was better against Georgia than USCe, but what I am saying is, "The Sky Is Falling" view that Lee played horrible against Georgia isn't quite dead on either. Yes, Lee threw 3 INT's which ended up giving Georgia 17 points. The first INT was completely on Lee. No other way to look at it. He lead the WR with his eyes and the defender was able to make a break on it. The other 2 INT's were bad as well, but I have a different feeling on the matter. I felt they were more a product of being down and asking a RSF to make something happen. Sometimes it just doesn't work out that way. Before the start of the season everyone said that all we need from the QB position is game manager. We don't need him to win games, just control the ball. Well, I haven't really felt like that's what we've asked from Lee. We've asked him at least 4 times to try and come from behind and win the game. He was able to do it at Auburn and at USCe, but not at Florida or against Georgia. I feel we're simply asking too much from a RSF QB. Once you start asking a young QB to throw the ball around 30 times a game, I think that's asking more than you should. And I realize we're forced to ask him, either by a mistake he made or by our defense not playing well. But I'm just saying that ~30 passes a game for inexperienced QB's are a bit much. The past 3 games we've asked Lee to throw the ball: 38, 26, 28. Averaging almost 31 passes per game. If you take those 3 games out, Lee's averaging ~19 passes a game. Which is exactly where we'd like him to be at. The problem is, our defense has not helped to carry the load of an inexperienced QB. Far from it, our defense has actually added to the burden carried by Lee. If we could just get a turnover every once in awhile, if we could just wrap up players, and stop asking run Safeties to cover WR's; then maybe some of the pressure would be lifted off of Lee and we wouldn't have to ask him to throw so may times and risk an INT. Hatch and Jefferson is not the answer. Not right now. Hatch simply has no arm strength. I hope in the offseason he hits the weight room hard, because he'd be a heck of a QB if he could complete a pass past 10 yards. Jefferson might have the talent, but he's even rawer than Lee or Hatch. Lee is our best chance to win. He makes plenty of mistakes (as was expected from him.) The difference between now and preseason is, we all expected our Defense to play great and help carry Lee while he learns. That hasn't happened. Does Lee get some of the blame of the loss? Yes. But without Lee we would have lost the Auburn game, so I look at it as a wash. The difference is, with a defense that actually shows up to play and stops giving up big plays (9 over 15+ in the game?!?!?!) we would only have 1 Loss, and possibly even none. Yes, Lee is playing like a RSF. What's our defense's excuse though?
Now you are just straight up lying, I have talked about the defense in each of my post. Maybe you choose to ignore that, which is fine. You took the second coming joke personal, thats how you got personal, but you want to drag my interactions with other posters into this, like you are making a clear statement with that broad bogus statement, then criticize me for not being specific. People disagree with me all the time, most of them in the FSA. Acceptable to who, you, because you continue to defend a below average QB. Its not acceptable to me, for a QB to throw 3 picks for 17 points, maybe thats acceptable to you. I dont see you defended the defense, they suffer from the same problem that Lee does, inexperience. When we have 2 new starting corners and 2 new starting linebackers, it will show in the defense, as it has. But you havent defended them. The difference between this year and last year is that we had to good experienced corners and a good DC. The corners last year gave our blitzes and D-line enough time to get to the quarterback. We will have to agree to disagree, but your assessement of how I engage other posters is wrong. If Im wrong about something, I say I am, If I offend someone, I apologize. You've acknowledged that about me, yourself.
