Pac-10 vs SEC over all SEC is 59-37-5 all time vs the Pac-10 in bowl games SEC 340 games 184 wins 147 losses 9 ties 554 winning pct. best in college football among fbs Pac-10 188 games 98 wins 88 losses 2 ties 527 pct. 3rd best in football among fbs (2nd is big east)
When USC, and for that matter Utah, to mention the two main culprits this year, can start playing more than one real game a year, meaning bowl game, outside of their pansy little conferences, that is, playing some REAL GAMES against some REAL TEAMS from REAL CONFERENCES, then maybe, just maybe, they will get some RESPECT, spelled R-E-S-P-E-C-T, (ask Gladys), and then you can TALK WITH THE BIG BOYS!!... until then, geaux on, get on outta here, get out to the shed, lick your wounds, and DREAM about the future days that just may be possible... the days when you can play a REAL SCHEDULE, against REAL TEAMS, and RUN WITH THE BIG BOYS!!! !!!GEAUX GATORS / SEC / TIGERS!!!... LSU! :grin: :lsup:
BCS Titles: SEC (5)....5-0 Big 12 (2).... 2-3 Pac-10 (1)....1-1 Big Ten (1)....1-2 Big East (1)....1-2 ACC (1)....1-2
1) 30+ million people in California 2) 1 top 25 all-time program (USC) in Pac-1 3) #2 all-time program in Pac-1 is Washington 4) Best programs on left half of U.S. (USC, BYU, Boise State, Utah, Oregon, Hawaii, Cal, Air Force, Oregon State) Looking at those numbers it's easy to see that the left half of the country can't hold a candle to the rest of the U.S. Now if you're the media, you have two choices: 1) Tell it like it is and risk losing millions of viewers 2) Pretend the Pac-1, WAC, etc. are quality conferences to keep your left coast viewers watching The argument really isn't the SEC versus the Pac-1. It's all about USC. They have a great program but don't play quality teams each week. It's nobody's fault but their own if they don't play for the title. Stop losing a game each year to a high school team and then the rest of the country may agree with you that you deserve a shot.
So based on your post(IRT to UTAH) I guess we should assume that a season opening road game at Michigan will be a "pansie" game, beating the team that beat USC, is a pansie game, beating the team that is #7 in both polls is a "pansie" game, and beating a team that ended 21 in one poll and 25 in the other, is a pansie game. Add to this, the MWC went 6-1 against the PAC 10 this year. Those teams don't get alot of choice or opportunity to play big teams, HOWEVER they will always jump at the chance while many teams do everything they can to avoid playing teams like Utah, TCU and Boise. There are more than a few pundits claiming the MWC THIS YEAR could easily be the 3 or 4th toughest conf in the country. I used to think just like you when my ONLY picture of college football was something related to LSU and the SEC. After 5 years of watching my son play all over this country I witnessed multiple games where if TCU didn't win outright they were very competitive and could easily compete as well as most teams in most BCS conferences now. I guess you probably missed the statement in the second half when the announcer said OPEW receivers had not seen that kind of tight coverage since the TCU game, Texas PLAYED and beat OPEW after TCU played them. TCU and Texas held Oklahoma to the same point total, 35. Oklahoma ran for 26 yards on TCU WITH Murray playing. Just something to think about when you make such a blanket claim w/o a little research. Lastly I am a huge LSU fan, grad, donate a decent amount of money and always have and will. When bowl season hits I am usually pulling for the SEC, however I will admit I throughly enjoyed the defensive beatdown Utah put on Alabama..............which btw, looked a whole lot worse than what Florida did to Alabama, but that's just IMO.:geaux:
TCUTiger, great points, and I have been saying all year that the ACC and the Big East are in real danger of losing their BCS slots to the MWC and CUSA... both conferences are playing much better football than either big east and acc...
I'll give the conference credit for being tough, THIS YEAR. Not if they had to play every game against a BCS school. It's really easy to watch these kids get sky-high for a game against a LSU, and it's easy to watch the LSUs and Oklahomas come out flat as a pancake against these schools. See Troy. Put those teams in a conference where every game is a grind, and we'll start to see the inferior talent, coaching, and depth start to show up big around game 4. TCU wouldn't reach .500 in the SEC.
Again, it's pretty regular to watch a big time school get stuck playing a MWC or WAC school in a BCS Bowl, the small school comes out sky high and the big time school flat as a pancake. LSU's managed to avoid this because their worst opponents have all been BCS names (ND, GT, Miami). I'm just not impressed because I've seen it over and over again for the past few years.
