Props to the Military, CIA and, yes, to Obama

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  1. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    This thread in a nutshell.
     
  2. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    I already answered that question. They can be defined as wars but they weren't declared. If you don't want those idiots in Congress to decide when to go to war, which idiots do you want to decide?

    I believe we should have brought those who were involved in 9/11 to justice. That finally happened with bin Laden's death. I believe in a strong national defense and strong intellegence. I don't agree with interventionism because it is costly, it distracts from domestic issues, and it leads to complicated foreign entanglements. I believe in a restricted federal government and many of the so called conservatives here can't truthfully say that. Most of em are republocrats (strong executive, strong federal government, foolish economic policies, foreign welfare).
     
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  3. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    the issue isnt who i want to decide. the issue is that it has been decided. and we are at war.

    you think 9/11 was one single guy and now we won? i know you dont, you are disingenuous.
     
  4. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I think there is. Declared wars with the exception of the War of 1812 were all won by the United States. Our major undeclared wars have either been lost (Vietnam, Somalia, Lebanon) or never finished (Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan).
     
  5. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    bullets hit 12.4% harder when backed by congress.

    when pearl harbor started, and our guys shot back, they were ineffective because it was still a few hours until war were declared*.
     
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  6. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    You don't understand the issue, that's what all this trouble has been about. I understand there are multiple gd definitions of the word war you fk nut. martin doesn't give a fk why we go to war or who brings us there, all martin wants to do is fight. When someone says fight, all martin says is yes sir.

    The point isn't to defeat terror because that will ne'er be done. It was to bring those responsible to justice. We can do the rest of our anti-terrorism behind the scenes; no more need to be involved in war of any type at this time. Well, maybe we can go to war against big government.
     
  7. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    KABLOWIE, BANG, BAM!!!!!!! Shoot first, ask questions later. Let God sort 'em out. BOOM!!!!!!!
     
  8. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    right, well use the correct definition then.
     
  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Is this nonsense supposed to mean something?
     
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    martin Banned Forever

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    i am asking you for the specific reason you think wars are more successful for having congressional approval. if it isnt better bullets then what is it?

    again, wars are wars. they are either justified or they arent. and that isnt even correlated with whether we win them or not. it damn sure isnt correlated with who decided to fight them.

    and i didnt define a just war as a war that is winnable. thats not how it works.
     

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