Props to the Military, CIA and, yes, to Obama

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  1. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    not for you to decide. just answer his questions instead of mocking him is my point.

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    maybe he thinks we let this dude hang out on US soil and invited him to white house dinners for years before killing them. maybe thats why he asked the citizenship question. try not to assume.
     
  2. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    I am not asking questions just to ask questions, I don't know the answer and therefore I ask.

    We aren't technically in a war - that requires a declaration of war. If you are all about perpetual war and giving up rights to due process from here to eternity, you take too much of your freedom for granted. I'm not in the group that believes that politicians know better than the rest of us and can just make up the law as they go. Politicians need to go through the process, otherwise our government is no longer of and for the people.

    That said, I am all about going after those responsible for 9/11 (al-Qaeda). I'm not even sure I disagree with the assassination of al-Awlaki as it was done. But it isn't like we happened across al-Awlaki and killed him, we've been targeting this guy for a while. During all that time I think it is a total failure that his citizenship wasn't revoked.

    I think it raises the question of if we had the proof to revoke his citizenship. If we didn't, why did we kill him? It puts into question all the things alleged of him.

    If he wasn't guilty of what he was alleged do you believe he was deserving of assassination? If we was merely an al-Qaeda sympathizer and an inspiration to militant Muslims, I'm not sure assassination is warranted.

    If the government says you're a member of al-Qaeda and you're an American Muslim living in the middle east, does that give them the right to kill you? I don't think it does.
     
  3. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Perhaps it was. Do you know that it wasn't?

    Do a little reading. He was the leader of a major Al Qadea branch. One that tried to blow up two American airliners recently. He also recruited the underwear bomber and the muslim army major who assassinated soldiers.
     
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  4. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    Like I said before, it is being reported as if his citizenship hasn't been revoked. I would think those doing the reporting have asked this question and based on the little reading I've done, it looks like Washington was dragging their feet on deciding how to revoke citizenship.

    What I've read alleges these things. Are allegations enough? Can you post a link to anything more definitive? If not, I've already said I don't care enough to do further research. I agree that if what was alleged is true that I don't have much of a problem with this, particularly if DC was dragging ass on figuring out how to revoke his citizenship. The allegations do seem to indicate he was a traitor.

    I've only continued this discussion because martin started calling me out. Is that a good enough reason? ...:confused:
     
  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    It's an excellent reason.
     
  6. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    absolutely.
     
  7. Rex_B

    Rex_B Geaux Time

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    Good piece here. Around 2:45 if you want to fast forward.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho99a0rIL2M]WXIX 19 (CIN) Ben Swann on Anwar Al-Awlaki and the Constitution - YouTube[/ame]
     
  8. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    i did answer the question, the answer i s because it isnt necessary. i have no reason to beleive that it would be at all a normal thing. for all i know the procedure is to never revoke citizenship in cases like this.


    see that has nothing to do with the citizenship issue. none of this does. its all one big stpid effort to imply that the normal procedure wasnt followed. and that is nonsense. again, there is no reason for us to bleive that the government has ever bothered to revoke citizenship before, or in order to justify killing a terrorist.

    aqgain, we can kill our own citizens, it just dont matter about the citizenship, we can kill our own citizens if we are war against who they are allied with. that is the answer to why it wasnt revoked. i dunno why i have to repeat this point literally 30 times.
     
  9. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    my citizenship hasnt been revoked. neither has yours. neither has his. if any of us moved to afghnanistan or yemen and worked for AQ, we would be liable to be killed. CITIZENSHIP NOT RELEVANT

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    it doesnt look like that at all, you made that up in a very dishonest effort to further your lie.


    every person that has ever been put to daeth in history was put to death based on "allegations"

    why do you keep repeating this LIE? i just told like 500 times that the citizenship isnt relevant and they didnt need to revoke anything. they dont need to do that because we are at war. did i mention that part about the war already? you dont even know that anyone ever even considered giving a damn about revoking his citzenship. YOU SIMPLY MADE THAT UP

    to each his own. you can be dishonest for whatever reason you choose.
     
  10. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    john walked lindh, the american taliban, also worked with al queda, did not have his citizenship revoked. WHY? OH MY LORD CAN ANYONEW ANSZWER MY QUESUIONS LOL HAHA THIS IS SUSPISHUSS

    revoking citizenship just inst something that is normally done during wartime. i dunno why we would ever bother.
     

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