PPACA (Obama Care) Upheld by SCOTUS

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  1. gyver

    gyver Rely on yourself not on others.

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    i can give you an example. we had chicago union machinist work for a week at shop 8 yrs ago. he was what we call a button pusher. put part in machine and push button was all he could do. he made $22 an hr in chicago, we paid him $8. the majority of these union autoworkers perform 1 maybe 2 tasks on a machine that performs all the turning and milling excercises. load, push, unload, repeat. I am the one at our shop that has to do all the programming, tool setups and show the operator how to run machine. no matter how dummy proof i make it there's always someone dumber than expected that gets put on it.
     
  2. gyver

    gyver Rely on yourself not on others.

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    companies are scared to hire because of the anti-business policies of this administration.
    you cannot make the poor richer by making the rich poorer.
     
  3. gyver

    gyver Rely on yourself not on others.

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  4. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Yep. You get what you pay for.
     
  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Then why are we giving them tax breaks to encourage them to hire? Answer me that! If corporate tax breaks are what we need to provide jobs, then why haven't they been obligated to hire? It's bullshit if they can take the tax breaks and just keep the money by saying that they are too scared to hire. Give it fucking back if they are too "scared" to take a business risk.

    It's nothing but corporate welfare. They want to transfer all company risk to the government! Why do you support these handouts to companies who don't need them or use them for the good of the nation by hiring?
     
  6. lsufan52

    lsufan52 Lsu baseball fan from old box to new

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  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    if you can't understand a graph, it ain't my problem. Those are the latest numbers available. If you can show that corporate taxes have risen since 2009 then do so. Good luck with that.

    You pulled inaccurate comments from an anonymous character on an anonymous internet forum! I offered an authoritative source for the factual data I posted including graphs and a link.

    Let it be noted that you have addressed NONE of the issues I mentioned above. You are dancing around the topic . . . because you got nuthin'.
     
  8. lsufan52

    lsufan52 Lsu baseball fan from old box to new

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    How could I be so inept or am I missing something your graph shows only up to the year 2009 is there some hidden graph inside the one you provided that im not seeing , please inform me as I would hate to quote inaccurately . Many of the links i posted did not come from some unknown forum, maybe unknown to you and maybe some others but that forum you speak up cleanupatf.org is ran by ATF members and former ATF go look through the post im sure if you have been paying attention quite so well you will probably recognize some of the names like Dobyn who's house was set on fire and talking of the retaliation regarding F&F. I'm not proud to have to choose between either candidate because they both have some shadiness about them but its the only choices we are given besides moving out the country which won't happen so I will vote Romney based on the past 4 years of what Obama has given us which is nothing more than a bunch of broken promises I already know what to expect from him if he is elected , ive no idea what Romney plans but it can't be no more worse than what we've been getting and for that reason I am willing to take a chance and let him try to at least do something for the people to straighten things out , whether he will or not is a mystery but I know darn sure Obama won't . No offense just stating my opinion.
     
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  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Dude, there is no data available later than 2009. If you have it, then post it. What the graph shows is that corporate taxes have steadily declined for decades. A snapshot of corporate taxes in 2012 alone shows you nothing. The graph backs up my statement that corporate taxes have declined. You can deny the obvious if you wish, but you have offered nothing to dispute the data other than criticize that it does't include 2012 data. Must I point out that 2012 is not over yet? If you have evidence that shows corporate taxes rising from 2009 to 2012, then post it. Else . . .

    What exactly does an anti-ATF anonymous forum have to do with the Health Care Law?

    I'm never offended by anyones opinion. I just won't tolerate anyones phony facts.
     
  10. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    No, but I don't even understand how that is relevant to the question I asked. How were the higher corporate rates better?
     

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