Potential Government Shutdown

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  1. gyver

    gyver Rely on yourself not on others.

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    I don't condemn the whole system. I know there are people thAt need disability. What I've always said is those that abuse the system need to be held accountable. Same for welfare. Those that would rather live off the taxpayers and don't want to work can kiss my ass,starve and go homeless.
     
  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Sounds good. The way to do that is not to just slash the budgets but to root out the fraud. But the Republican party only wants to cut the funds. It's all they care about.
     
  3. gyver

    gyver Rely on yourself not on others.

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    If funds are limited then it makes sense that case workers have to be more discretionary. The case workers would either be forced to scrutinize each case or allocate on a first come first serve basis and let those that really need it suffer. My stepmom was a social worker for about 15 years in Kansas. We talked about this kind of stuff.
    The fd had to come up with a %10 budget cut for the new budget. The county fire coordinator asked me to sit down and see what I could come up with. We decreased it by %17. There was a lot of stuff we wanted but only half we actually needed. I'm pretty conservative when it comes to spending other peoples money. Especially tax dollars.
     
  4. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    Did you see the special on 60 minutes a week or so ago? Dr. Tom Coburn is hot on this. They are at least taking a look at it and they know that fraud runs rampant throughout the system. I don't think he TC wants to cut the funds but instead crack down on the cases that are abusing the system. The numbers they were kicking out on 60 min were astonishing. They had former legal aids and what nots from these shady lawyers that get everyone qualified and it is a joke.
     
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  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Whenever it comes down to lawyers, everybody gets hosed.
     
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  6. Cajun Sensation

    Cajun Sensation I'm kind of a big deal Staff Member

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    Looks like a deal has been made.

    I saw this on Twitter:

     
  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    The Tea Party is self-destructing and the GOP is riding the hellbound train instead of cutting them loose. Only 24 percent of Americans have a favorable view of the Republican Party, the lowest ever. Tea Party activists led their colleagues over domestic (the government shutdown) and global (the debt ceiling) cliffs. Obama exposed the fact that they didn’t come to Washington to fix anything, only to tear everything down. They may be doing what the constituents in their painfully drawn, one-sided, overwhelmingly white, aging, anti-gay, anti-immigrant, science-denying districts want. But declining poll numbers and a breach with the Republican Party’s traditional business allies are signs that their act is getting old.

    The U.S. Chamber of Commerce sent a letter signed by about 250 business groups asking members of Congress to stop their shenanigans. Wall Street titans such as JPMorgan Chase & Co. and Goldman Sachs, alarmed that a small band of extremists is blithely considering bringing down the global economy, are pleading with the Republican leadership to rein in the renegades.

    The Tea Party have been dubbed “wacko birds” by John McCain. Karl Rove said their scorched-earth strategy was “the one tactic that might be able to guarantee that the Democrats pick up seats in the Congress in 2014.”

    Upset that the fiscal stalemate in Washington is threatening the global economy, China yesterday called for the U.S. dollar to be replaced as the international reserve currency as well as for broader steps to create a "de-Americanized world." Declining respect for America is not a good thing for the country, it is a snowballing disaster.
     
  8. gyver

    gyver Rely on yourself not on others.

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    If the debt ceiling were a problem. Wall Street would be tanking at the thought of the US defaulting. But the market is holding steady. I think the world recognizes we have a spending and borrowing problem. Our credit didn't get downgraded last time because we almost didn't raise an imaginary debt ceiling. It was downgraded because the banks see that out politicians refuse to get spending and borrowing under control. When you try and get a loan what do banks do? Run a credit check. That's all the world banks and credit rating bureaus are doing to us.
    China knows that if we keep printing money then it can and will wreck the world economy.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    The debt ceiling is a huge problem. If you can't see this, you aren't paying close attention.
     
  10. gyver

    gyver Rely on yourself not on others.

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    Spending is a bigger problem. The career tax, borrow and spend politicians are out to demonize the conservative T party republicans. They have gotten this country into a big mess with their credit card attitudes and now some men and women have been elected to halt it. And the Reid's and mccains and Barry can't stand it. It's about time someone in Washington has stood up and said enough us enough.
     

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