Post NFL Draft: Nick Saban's Era finally over?

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  1. TGer'nLHornLand

    TGer'nLHornLand Founding Member

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    Actually I disowned NS when he lied to Tigernation and moved on. So I don't "care" about him. I just started the thread with the fact that our 7 LSU draft picks are all Saban recruits and I hope Les's guys will see the same kind of success. And, I hope Les can sustain the same kind of success with his recruits. Time will tell.
     
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  2. bhelmLSU

    bhelmLSU Founding Member Staff Member

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    You stated a fact that they were Saban's recruits and others gave different viewpoints on who developed these players and different opinions on who's players they really are. I also pointed out that recruiting is not just about the head coach and involves many other traits, some of which influenced Miles and Saban to come here themselves. Some of your reasoning was also considered illogical by some as well, I might add. You are not the only one with logical thought and the correct opinons here if you are trying to imply that.

    I don't believe anyone said it wouldn't be Les' fault if things turned south or anything about how it was not Miles' fault because of RP. In the broader view, it is LSU's and the coaches success and failures because Miles was hired by LSU to develop the players, the program, and recruit. If LSU fails in football they will take action by trying again to hire someone they desire in a coach. But why are you going off on that tangent.

    Seems to me you are just assuming what the fans thoughts are and then picking them apart based on your own thoughts. So is the topic you are trying to discuss about Saban's recruits and who gets credit for their NFL potential or some other tangent? :huh:

    Your opinion is that these players are Saban's and Miles can not be judged on his ability as a head coach until everyone single one of them was actually recruited by him, correct? That seems pretty narrow considering that recruiting is only a fraction of what goes into being a head coach but that is you opinion and you are entitled to that opinion with or without us agreeing with you.:wink:
     
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  3. Bandit88

    Bandit88 Old Enough to Know Better

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    Seriously. Are we STILL talking about this? WTFO? :rolleye33: Is anyone else's patience wearing a bit thin with this topic?

    Who?

    Gives?

    A?

    Crap?

    :crystal::geaux:
     
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  4. Tigerbnd05

    Tigerbnd05 National Champs 2003 2007

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    All you really need to know about whose team it has been the past 3 years.

    Saban ran up to a "player" after he blew the coverage in the Capital One Bowl to lose the game. He started to yell at him, and the "player" looked him in the eye and told him to F off, You're not my coach anymore.

    Obviously Les wasn't hired yet but do you think those kids still believed in Saban at that point?
     
    Tigerbnd05, May 7, 2008
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  5. TigerBait3

    TigerBait3 Guest

    saban and i were probably sharing similar words at that time.
     
    TigerBait3, May 7, 2008
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  6. FrankA

    FrankA Founding Member

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    Your attempt at a syllogism is illogical. The only part that rings true is RP's dismissal was due to HIS OWN actions, HIS FAILURE to act in a mature manner and HIS REFUSAL to accept the coach's demands. Dorsey's attainments happened as a result of his own hard work and his willingness to accept coaching.
    RP's "legacy" is his failure to do what was necessary to remain on the team. It is neither the "legacy" of Miles nor LSU.
    If you must have a legacy for Miles and the University, it would be the refusal to accept RP's behavior, in spite of any negative effect on next year's team and season. To me, that's a pretty good legacy to have.
     
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  7. Old Bandit

    Old Bandit Just Some Old Guy

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    I applaud your comments. Those are some pretty moving statements.
     
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  8. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    Are you flirting? Old Bastid *cough* I mean, Bandit. :wink:
     
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  9. Bandit88

    Bandit88 Old Enough to Know Better

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    I honestly cannot say that an attempted syllogism ever moved me. But then, that's just not how I roll... :lol:

    You did, however, get me on Google in .69 seconds to "remind myself: what syllogism is, just in case I want to attempt it and move my wife.

    So, brownie points to FrankA!
     
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  10. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    Without a doubt they (We) can and are but I don't remember people saying Saban was winning with Dinardo's recruits. He's losing and it's cuz of Shula's though. :hihi:



    I'm okay with accepting RP as part of Miles' leggacy. One of Miles' strengths is, hands down, his player relationships.

    He gave RP a lot of chances- WAY more than most know about. So he couldn't reach one, maybe more to come, there's no doubt in my mind he exhausted every resource available to "Save" him.

    Props to Miles for cutting the ties- even though he arguably should have earlier- if only he'd listen to tirk. Saban had his share of troubled players too. Maybe someone can help me out, I can't recall specifics right off. One beating the chit out of his gf comes to mind. Since his short stay at Bama, LAWD.
     
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