Pigs Blood Bullets for Mooslems - Trump

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  1. uscvball

    uscvball Founding Member

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    There is no reason to expect otherwise. I think Harrah's and the MGM Grand are the only casino/resorts to ever make the Fortune 500. That doesn't make Donald a failure. Atlantic City as a whole, is mostly a failure for reasons that have nothing to do with Trump.

    That rumor has been repeated enough times that most folks believe it now.

    "There’s a bit of informed guesswork behind these numbers because outsiders can only know so much about Trump’s finances. The National Journal writer, S.V. Dáte, figured Trump started with $40 million in 1974. That’s the year he became president of his father’s real estate company. By one estimate, the firm was worth about $200 million and divided among Donald Trump and his four siblings, each would have received $40 million.

    But it’s not as though the company was liquidated that year. Trump’s father lived until 1999, so whatever happened, it’s more complicated than Trump receiving a cash inheritance in 1974 and deciding what he would do with it.

    We’re left with a question of how much money Trump got from his father and, most important, at what point those assets morphed from being his father’s to being his.

    In 1982, after running his father’s firm for eight years, Forbes magazine estimated Trump’s worth at $200 million. Since he was in charge of the company, then those dollars are more his than his father’s. The Journal article tiptoed around this uncertainty with careful phrasing. The author talked about Trump investing "his eventual share of his father’s real estate company." An eventual share is not cash in hand.

    Similarly, the article did not say that the estimated $200 million in 1982 was from Trump’s father. Dáte told us in his view, that truly was Trump's money because the real estate company was worth more than that. Dáte said he didn't really care what the status of the assets was."


    They do? I have never heard that nor do I know anyone who believes it.

    He's more than a great marketer. I don't think he can walk on water and I wouldn't give a phuck if he owned every foreign building over 5 floors. His main element is.....does he understand business and can he bring that knowledge to the Presidency? Clearly the answer is yes. The idiot who lives in the White House now wasn't much more than a neighborhood organizer and lifelong limpet living off the public rock.

    I don't think he will either but his attributes as a business man are not in question. He would certainly do a better job than Bill's inept American royalty wife.
     
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  2. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    I agree but it's not because they don't have any sane candidates. Rubio is sane, wrong but sane. Ted Cruz is fucking insane. He sits there are roasts Rubio on immigration saying Cruz himself is more like Reagan (a man that would be run out of the Republican Party today) I'm quite sure Reagan gave amnesty to a bunch of immigrants too. Then he has the balls to say he doesn't personally attack people and everyone personally attacks him, meanwhile his website has a picture of Rubio's face that's half his and half Obama's.
     
  3. mobius481

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    Yes, of course. read the conversation we were having. I never said he was a failure. In fact, I said he wasn't a failure. Trump supporters insist on inflating his accomplishments. That was my only point.


    The point is, he could never have done the things he did at the age he did them if he didn't have a multi million dollar company behind him. he's not self made as most Trump supporters think. Do you disagree with that?



    Yes, they do. Just like Perple who not only claimed he ran a fortune 500 company but also claimed that it was so complex that we would all bankrupt it.


    Of course he's a good businessman, but his niche and his greatest strength is marketing. He values his brand at 3 billion although Forbes only values it at $125 million. Either way, that's impressive. And if you don't think he can walk on water, then you're in the minority from the people I've talked to. They're stunned when I tell them he started with millions and possibly hundreds of millions and that he doesn't own every building with his name on it and that 4 of his companies have gone bankrupt. He is certainly a better businessman than anyone running but he also makes deals that help himself the most. He's a narcissist and would be an awful president.
     
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  4. mobius481

    mobius481 Registered Member

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    Cruz is a despicable piece of shit. I've never been in a position where I can't vote for anyone who's leading in any parth. Sanders, Clinton, Trump, and Cruz are all no go for me. I'll vote Rubio even though I don't love him. I like Kasich, I even liked Christie and Bush too.
     
  5. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    Its not inflating, but economically speaking, the dude runs circles around all the other yahoo's on stage.



    It is very hard to turn 40 million into billions. Do you disagree with that?



    I don't really care what all his companies were, but the point of a firm is to maximize profits and pick investments as such. There are times where bankruptcy is the better deal in the grand scheme of things and provides the best return. Chapter 11 for corporations is much different that bankruptcy for a personal family. Many people are clueless to the differences and why investors would choose this path. And that brings up the other point, most of these "businesses" are ran by investors.


    I mean, I dont see how he would be any worse that Bern, Hilda, or any other republican.

    You say you would vote for Rubio, dude cant even put together a sentence in his own words.
     
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  6. mobius481

    mobius481 Registered Member

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    Does he run a fortune 500 company? How is that not inflating his accomplishments?





    Of course it is. Not the point. The point is the guy didn't come from nothing. Maybe not important to some but a lot just spout out that he's a guy that made billions out of nothing. Not true.





    Yes he's done a great job of business, for himself. Yet magically the companies that are dogs are the ones that are public and have numerous other investors. He realizes the deals are risky or bad deals and brings in investors so his exposure is limited if he has to bankrupt it. It's well documented. He's a narcissist and only in to anything he does just for himself.




    At least he won't go around killing the family of suspected terrorists.
     
  7. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    Rubio is a 1st class ticket to WW3
     
  8. mobius481

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    funny coming from a trump supporter.
     
  9. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    Maybe he should. They all should. If you were thinking about ccmmiting an act of terrorism you might just change your plans if you knew it would get your whole family killed too.
     
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  10. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    You think their families are innocent?

    I'll tell you this, they support terrorism and have far more to do with it than the Japanese families did in Nagasaki.
     
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