Personal Freedom's and the Hypocrisy of the Republican Party

how's the baba ganoush over there?

 

you act like companies have no interest in retaining good workers. if they want their workers to stay, they will treat them right. if workers are not treated the way they feel is deserved, they should move on. employers need workers just as much as workers need employers.

stop taking sides in these disputes! why do you do that?

 

because i'm a worker, not an owner. You know I generally take the side that benefits me the most. I know it's a crazy notion. I think American workers are worn out, don't get enough vacation time, don't get enough benefits, work for crappy wages that rarely increase, all the while CEO's make 344 times what a rank and file guy makes. What I don't understand is why you guys are always siding with the corporations and not the workers.

 

why dont we just pass a law that says martin has to give all his money to lasalle. stop being selfish.

get a better job. cant? too bad. dont use the governmet to take from others.

u are not listening. i am not taking sides. i am doing the opposite. its not my business. literally. LITERALLY.

if workers have a bad deal, they should go to their boss and threaten to quit. i wish em luck. if the boss can hire some other dude for less. so be it. i want that other guy to have a job as well. i want the company to be free to make decisions because unlike you, i favor freedom for EVERYONE.

lets say a compnay has a union, and the union demands perks, like you describe. and they company says go to hell, and moves labor to china. the workers got what they deserved. and now some poor chinese folks have jobs and i am happy for them. they need jobs over there. they are really poor. i know you dont give a damn about that because you are ****ING SELFISH

 

I'm selfish because I want workers in this country to be able to get the most they can? It's ok for a company or a corporation to maximize their profits, but not for a person? why do you hate Americans and love the Chinese?

 

its fine for anyone to maximize profits. its not fine for them to use the force of the government to bully their opposition in these squabbles. dont take the freedom away from your opponent.

again, if you are not getting what you want, work somewhere else. i dunno why you cant get that through your skull.

i dont hate americans or chinese. unlike you i am not a racist nationalist that favors one over the otjer. if a chinaman can work for less so be it, i wont stop him from getting a job by manipulating my government.

 

They can already do this. They can go work somewhere else or start their own gig. They don't need the government trampling the rights of others to accomplish this.

This just shows you do not understand this issue. At all.

 

See I think the opposite, this shows how little you know. The government is there to protect the little guy. (do they always do this? No) Protect the little guy from pitiful working conditions, from safety issues, from pathetic slave wages, from greedy corporations who care only about a dollar and not it's employees. I guess you think OSHA is a bad thing too don't you. You think people should just get up and be happy to work in a toxic pit, with no protection, and at the end of the day when they are sick as hell, oh well f it, you shouldn't have chosen that job. What the f dreamland are you living in? You think we should just all go to work and be satisfied with what we have and never try to better our situation with the current employer.

That's interesting considering i have heard you bitch numerous times about your pathetic government job, but yet you still work there. Isn't that easy to just jump to another job is it.

Fu*k the workers right, lets raise the retirement age, and make hours longer, and force weekends too. Get rid of minimum wages, get rid of it all, paid holidays, vacation time, sick days the whole shabang.

 

and the big guy.

 

The little guy doesn't need the government to do this. Neither does the big guy. They just need the government to promote the general wellfare which means generally staying out of the way and letting the big guy and little guy work out what suits them best.

Why does the little need to be protected? Why can't he quit and find a better job if there are safety issues and terrible wages. This isn't the 1890's when coal miner's were paid in company currency. And do you not see if corporations do not take care of employees they quit and then the corporation does not continue?

I think OSHA is pretty terrible and ineffective. It is not nearly as good as robust as the ISO safety standards which were developed by industry.

Stop with the dumb strawman arguments. No where have I suggested anything remotely like that. I have said that if folks don't like the conditions at their jobs they should demand they improve, and if they don't they should find something that suits them. You know, exactly what they are free to do.

Why do you have to result to being dishonest? I of course think folks should try to better their lot at their job if they want to. What I have said is when they are unable to do that they should move on and not use the government to force their demands on their employers. That is not what government is for.

I think I made one post about that. And I never said changing jobs or careers was easy. I have just said that if things are are terrible and your employer won't do anything about it, making the change is probably worth it.

I never said that. Throwing crap like that just shows you are unable to argue the points.

We might have to, of course if people save and invest they can retire whenever they want.

Employers can't force employees to do anything.

Well, with selective editing I can make sense out of some of your drivel.

Those are things for employees and employers to iron out. They are capable of doing that without government. I left my last job because they dropped two holidays and got rid of sick time. It took me some time to find something better in a bad job market, but I did. I am not that special. If I can go and find a better job every couple of years most people probably can.


What you really need to realize is the only entity that can force someone to do anything is the government. If you get that through the haze you will be much better off.