Paying the Taliban not to fight...

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  1. Rex_B

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    Obviously there is cost of bringing home. But the sooner the better.

    And not impossible.
     
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    TigerFan23 USMC Tiger

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    Ok. Then tell me how you would bring home tens of thousands of troops and all of their equipment, vehicles, etc. immediately, which is what you seem to be advocating.

    Bottomline is that it's not going to happen, we have too much of a vested interest in it at this point and a responsibility to see it through. Though I know that won't keep you from hemming and hawing over the situation.
     
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    Immediately is relative. Am I saying it could take a week no. But it can start today.

    A vested interest in what? You think terrorism is going to stop?

    And see what through? There is no end goal as it would be stated.
     
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    TigerFan23 USMC Tiger

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    We have a responsibility to see this conflict through and attempt to put a stable government back into these towns that we've forced the Taliban out of. We don't just roll in and destroy a place and not help pick up the pieces.
     
  5. Rex_B

    Rex_B Geaux Time

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    Nation building ehh. Look how that worked out for us in Iran when we overthrew an ELECTED government and put in a dictator.

    To think that western ideas about government can be imposed by force and work is just ridiculous.

    Not to even mention where are you going to get the money to do any of this. Our country is 12 trillion in debt and will be at 19 trillion by the end of Obama's term.

    What price are we willing to pay. Or what price will our children be paying and for what?
     
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    Again, we don't just roll in and blow a town to hell and then leave it to rot. That's an easy way to get these people to keep hating us. I'm not continuing this argument because it's useless because clearly, you and I will never see eye to eye on this.
     
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  7. spikke

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    While I disagree with paying off the Taliban to stop being terrorists, at the same time Ron Paul besides being a kook, is a loon, and no paying off terrorists in Iraq didn’t work, as all we have accomplished in Iraq and also in Afghanistan thanks to political correct multiculturalism was to chase our tails and make the Dar al Islam stronger and emboldened more than ever.
     
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    I hate to rain on your self-hating and guilt filled parade, but Muslims don’t “keep hating us” because of what we do. Instead, they keep hating us because they are obligated to hate us and all non-Muslim kafir infidels per their religion, which makes the fantasy based nation building mission to lift up Muslims out of poverty to win their hearts and minds in Afghanistan or anywhere else exceedingly ludicrous since it is utterly impossible.
     
  9. spikke

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    How about we do what we use to do in the past…that is instead of pursing senseless and endless fantasy-based nation building missions in an effort to lift up Muslims and win their hearts and minds, which is literally impossible to do, we obliterate our enemies, create deterrence, and then go home.

    Moreover, no matter what that self-hating kook Ron Paul claims, Muslims didn’t attack us on 9/11 because of the CIA’s ouster of Mossadegh in 1953. Mossadegh was secular! Indeed, had he been alive in 1979 when Jimmy Carter pulled the Persian rug out from underneath the terminally ill Shah because like that kook Ron Paul, that self-hating loon Carter was suffering a guilt trip, Mossadegh would have been one of the first kafir infidels executed by the Khomeini regime. Indeed, you Ron Paul kooks, like the leftwing loons, are all hopeless.
     

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