Paul Ryan's Speech

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  1. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    this is true, he had a plan then gave it to congress and it got f-ed up. Like the stimulus .
     
  2. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    First an observation... I'm not sure I've ever encounted someone as hypocritacal as you. For a dude who gets his panties bunched at least twice a day because someone had the audacity to "speak for him" you sure do like to speak for others. Maybe you should practice what you preach friend.

    So, why don't you shut me up? Show me his specific plans for fixing healthcare and for stimulating the economy. I know he had a lot of goals, and spoke about them, but what was the substance to achieve those goals? Where did he communicate it? Where is the evidence to counter my contentions?
     
  3. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Debate is a blood sport, Scooter. Quit whinin'.

    I thought I just did.

    You made the contention, not I. Either you can back it up or you can't. Meanwhile I will shoot holes in it. Life's a bitch, ain't it?
     
  4. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    In fairness to Obama, his chief problem was that he didn't take the time to sell the legislation to the American people well enough. Before congress ever voted on it he should have toured the country explaining to people what the bill contained and how it would benefit them and how it could save billions or trillions of dollars. Same thing with the bailout; he should have done a better job selling the legislation. I think the American public would have been on board a little better if he had. That said, these were troubled times and things had to be done quickly in order to stave off economic disaster.

    All of that said, if you take a look at Obamacare it is filled with details but Obama himself never took to the road to sell that piece of legislation to the American people. As a consequence the Republicans defined it for him and now he is still playing catch up. If you read the bill it is a good piece of legislation. It could use some revisions, which even Obama has admitted, but all in all it is a good start to fixing health care with out government running health care.
     
  5. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    I'm not whining. I'm pointing out what a huge hypocrite you are.

    Hoss I made the negative assertion, that Obama did not give detailed plans for how he thought the stimulus and healthcare fixes should work. You claim he did detail specific plans. So support that. I can't prove Obama was not detailed anymore than I can proove Craing James didn't kill five hookers while playing at SMU.
     
  6. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    The problem with this as a rebuttal is that Obama didn't write Obamacare, I can't even say which of its many parts are his ideas, and which came from the House. The reason I can't do that is because he never communicated what his healthcare fix was. He talked about the goals and said he had a plan to accomplish the goals.
     
  7. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    The lies in the RNC seem Brazenly false. Scary. It might actually convince me to donate to b.o.

    And the GOP broken record about how great the us is because anyone can become successful. Bfd! Joseph was a slave in Egypt and became successful, zippdydoodah!
     
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  8. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    Or print more money to pay the bills.

    Oh, wait, individuals can't do that? Not a very relevant analogy tiga.
     
  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    And I'm pointing out what a whiner you are.

    You should be more careful than to make assertions that you cannot back up.
     
  10. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    I guess you suddenly forgo basic logic, but the burden of proof is on you. Either support your assertion or shut up.
     

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