Paul Ryan gets VP nod

more nonsense from Paul Ryan.

O'DONNELL: So, you voted for defense cuts. And now you're criticizing the president for those same defense cuts that you voted for and called a victory.
RYAN: No, no, I have to correct you on this, Norah. I voted for a mechanism that says a sequester will occur if we don't cut $1.2 trillion spending in government. We offered $1.2 trillion in various -- the super committee offered it. We passed in the House a bill to prevent those devastating defense cuts by cutting spending elsewhere. The senate's done nothing. President Obama's done nothing.
I wrote another bill, passed it, got signed into law, Democrats supported us, President Obama -- If he is not going to help us with a plan to prevent those defense cuts by substituting them from elsewhere, what's his plan for the sequester? He's ignoring the law. He was supposed to give these to us yesterday.
So the problem, Norah, is we've led. We wanted to have a bipartisan agreement. We got that. And the president hasn't fulfilled his end of the bipartisan agreement.
The goal was never that these defense cuts actually occur, the goal is that we get to work and cut spending so that we prevent those defense cuts. We've done that. The president hasn't.
O'DONNELL: Congressman, it's my understanding that as part of the Budget Control Act there was not just the sequestration, the defense sequestration, but there is also $1 trillion in immediate spending cuts, which included the defense cuts, almost $400 billion that were proposed by the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, Mr. Dempsey, as well as Secretary Panetta. And you also voted for those.
And now you're saying that you didn't vote for them?
RYAN: We can get into this nomenclature. I voted for the Budget Control Act but the Obama administration proposed $470 billion in defense cuts. We don't agree with that. Our budget rejected that. And then on top of that is another $500 billion in defense cuts.
O'DONNELL: Right, it's a trillion in defense spending. And you voted for it.
RYAN: No, Norah, I voted for the Budget Control Act.
O'DONNELL: That included defense spending.
RYAN: Norah, you're mistaken.​

Per Beauchamp:

O’Donnell is, in fact, not mistaken. The Budget Control Act, as passed, included both the roughly $600 billion in “sequestration” cuts that will happen if there’s no compromise on the budget by December as well as the $487 billion ofmilitary-supported cuts that will take place regardless. The fact that Ryan may have wished that the bill didn’t contain said defense cuts does not absolve him of the fact that he and 201 other Republicans voted for the bill as-passed.​

Additionally, it's sort of hard to square Ryan's new position with the one he took after he helped pass the Budget Control Act, which you can find on Ryan's House website:

“The Budget Control Act represents a victory for those committed to controlling government spending and growing our economy. I applaud Speaker Boehner’s leadership in stopping tax increases on job creators, rejecting President Obama’s demands for a blank check to keep borrowing, and advancing real spending cuts and controls. The agreement – while far from perfect – underscores the extent to which the new House majority has successfully changed Washington’s culture of spending. No longer can Washington endlessly spend money it does not have.​

And he delivered a statement on the floor of the House, praising the act as a rare show of bipartisanship. Note the kind words he had then for the sequestration cuts:
RYAN: Let me just sum up by saying this, Mr. Speaker. This debate, it's very clear that we have differences of opinions. We have different philosophies on how to address these issues. But we're coming up to a deadline that we all must recognize: default. And so what this has done, it has brought our two parties together. So I would just like to take a second to reflect for a moment that we have a bipartisan compromise here. That doesn't happen all that often around here; so I think that's worth noting. That's a good thing.
First off, as my colleague from Texas has just said, this is a down payment on the problem. It's a good step in the right direction, and it is a huge cultural change to this institution. Both parties got us in this mess. Both parties are going to have to work together to get us out of this mess, and the real problem, I would add, Mr. Speaker, is the fact that we spend way more money than we take in. We have to address that.
To my friends on the left, I think they would like to take comfort in the fact the way these spending cuts are designed and the way the sequester is designed.
To my friends on the right, we are cutting spending. We have been trying to get discretionary caps in law for years. I have been here 13 years trying for it every year, this is the first time.

 

Awesome. fraud, let's hope he and his dingleberry daddy Mitt don't win, because if they do, the lies are only going to get worse.

 

You keep saying this as if lies come exclusively from one side. Try not to be so hackish. If Romney and Ryan are big liars what does that make the other side the ticket?

 

Smooth Operators? Like Sade?

I think what our friend LaSalle is alluding to isn't that Obama and Biden are on a truth campaign; far from it. It's the audacity of the lies being told by Romney and Ryan. Most politicians paint the corners of any argument so that it favors their stance on the issue and occasionally will embellish the truth but Romney and Ryan are telling blatant lies, lies that are easily reputed; almost as if they are daring the media to call them out so they can scream, "Liberal media bias!" Take for instance Ryan's attack on the $716 billion in medicare savings in Obamacare. Ryan knows damn good and well that the very same savings, down to the letter, are in his plan. Also, the welfare reform attacks that are easily reputed and can be done so by the Republican governors from the states who requested the waivers.

 

Let us talk about nonsense....this is what I found on my fb this afternoon.

I'm not usually political in any way but I wanted share something. If political talk is going to offend you please read no further.
Much Love.

I caught a small part of the DNC and I noticed something, their passion, their fervor, their pursuit ... its religious. They are following the religion of the liberal agenda. facts mean nothing, truth means nothing, reality means nothing because they are operating on faith in their human solution. We are not just facing a political conflict.. this is a religious conflict and the opponents are HOSTILE to our God. there will be assaults and have been assaults upon the church of Jesus(this will continue if the liberals maintain power and most likely in spades.) To vote for a democrat is to support a religion that is hostile to our Father. I will vote contrary to this agenda because the alternative is not Opposed to my God. Whether they worship our God is not the only question to ask.. Are they actively seeking harm against our God and his kingdom? this is appropriate as well.

Since when did God or Jesus become a Republican?

 

Geez....this is the problem with things like facebook: any needle dick with an agenda can perpetuate all the nonsense they want. Unfortunately there are people who will read this and will feel threatened that their religious liberties are under attack. thankfully, the only people who believe this kind of poop are already voting for Romney.

 

Sorry friend. I'm not going to waste my time trying to figure out whose bullshit is a lighter brown. If I had to, I'd say Romney is marginally less full of prunes, but not enough to matter. I also think romney would be a slightly less terrible president than Obama, maybe even as good as W (read sarcasm).

If I were going to vote I'd vote for Romney because supporting the guy Lasalle likes seems like a really bad idea.

 

Do we really want to reduce ourselves on deciding who lies less? The best we are going to get from either side is half truth. I'm sure Romney and Ryan will tell some whoppers, so will Obama and Biden. It seems really stupid to post a lie told by a politician to make a point about his political opponent. Neither ticket is honest. Everyone should know this.

I don't understand why you and LaSalle have to be such hacks and pretend that Obama is being honest in his campaign. The objective thinker will admit both tickets are full of shit.