Paul Ryan gets VP nod

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  1. gyver

    gyver Rely on yourself not on others.

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  2. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    I see you dont know what that order was about, the dream act is a path to citizenship, the order was about applying for work permits which isnt a path to citizenship. Was it a political stunt yes, but not far reaching as you think it is.
     
  3. LSUMASTERMIND

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    http://video.msnbc.msn.com/up-with-chris-hayes/48716561#48716561


    "What we're trying to accomplish today with the passage of this third stimulus package is to create jobs and help the unemployed," Ryan said, in comments unearthed by MSNBC's "Up with Chris Hayes" and provided to HuffPost. "What we're trying to accomplish is to pass the kinds of legislation that when they've passed in the past have grown the economy and gotten people back to work."

    "In recessions unemployment lags on well after a recovery has taken place," Ryan accurately noted in 2002.

    "We've got to get the engine of economic growth growing again because we now know, because of recession, we don't have the revenues that we wanted to, we don't have the revenues we need, to fix Medicare, to fix Social Security, to fix these issues. We've got to get Americans back to work. Then the surpluses come back, then the jobs come back. That is the constructive answer we're trying to accomplish here on, yes, a bipartisan basis. I urge members to drop the demagoguery and to pass this bill to help us work together to get the American people back to work and help those people who've lost their jobs," Ryan said.
    Bush's stimulus, which included an extension of jobless benefits and resulted in checks being mailed to millions of Americans, was signed in March 2002.

    We have a lot of laid off workers, and more layoffs are occurring," the congressman continued. "And we know, as a historical fact, that even if our economy begins to slowly recover, unemployment is going to linger on and on well after that recovery takes place. What we have been trying to do starting in October and into December and now is to try and get people back to work. The things we're trying to pass in this bill are the time-tested, proven, bipartisan solutions to get businesses to stop laying off people, to hire people back, and to help those people who have lost their jobs."
     
  4. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Mom and Pops? Give me a break! Subchapter S is a tax loophole that allows corporations (few of them small) to be taxed as individuals instead of corporations.

    Only 2.1 percent of small business taxpayers both (a) are rich enough to lose their Bush tax cuts under President Obama’s proposals, and (b) receive most of their income from an S corporation that they own. Further, S corporations are not necessarily as “small” as many people assume. The average adjusted gross income (AGI) for this 2.1 percent is $1.1 million.

    One example is the Tribune Company, a multimedia company that is also the country's second largest publisher of newspapers, including the Chicago Tribune, the Los Angeles Times, and several others. The Tribune Company saved $1.8 billion just by changing its status to an S corporation

    Loopholes for Wealthy Owners of “Subchapter S Corporations” Will Not Help “Small Businesses”
     
  5. gumborue

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    college is for elitists. b.o. is trying to make taxpayers pay for kids college so he can indoctrinate them. the only school worth anything is the school of hard knocks.
     
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    you left out the biggest group of small businesses--those annoying Amway, MaryKay, tupperware, etc "businesses"
     
  7. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    you obviously never attended college or you would know better.

    Obama isn't the one indoctrinating kids, the Republican party is. Take a look at the curriculum that Bobby Jindal just offered up and tell me who is indoctrinating kids.

    To believe the kind of bull shit that your party is espousing you had better indoctrinate school children and discourage higher education because anyone with a half a brain recognizes how incredibly ludicrous the majority of the Republican party platform truly is.
     
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    well rick santorum and i disagree
     
  9. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    are you retracting your comment that college is for elitists? if not, then please expound.
     
  10. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    this is likely the greatest indictment of Republican hypocrisy and, if nothing else, should prove to everyone that the Republicans have put the interests of themselves and their party over those of the American people for the past 3 1/2 years. For Ryan to say these things when it pertained to a Republican President and then to turn around and act like a fiscal hawk now is laughable.
     

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